(March 15, 2014 at 7:03 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 6:54 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I thought you were the one who can't handle it ? Lol.

Speak for yourself. Seriously, we've submitted reports, data, scientific journals/studies/facts, etc. and all you've been able to come up with are testimonials and agenda-driven websites. If you can't admit that you're wrong, then you have a serious pride issue and need to get over it.

What do you think is going to happen if you admit that you don't have any data that corroborates your viewpoint? Do you think we're going to make fun of you? Think about it; we value honesty above anything else. We will praise you for getting over your preconceptions, for accepting facts that are backed by actual evidence. We will not hound you for once promoting a false agenda; that is not how we do things here.

YesbI might be wrong I know that, but I just cannot yet agree, I respect your belief, and I expect you to respect mine, and that is all I was really getting at.

I do not respect your belief. That is an irrational expectation, especially since your belief is demonstrably lacking evidence.

(March 15, 2014 at 7:14 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: I do not respect your belief. That is an irrational expectation, especially since your belief is demonstrably lacking evidence.

Well I do respect yours, and anyone else's, as its been said, "I may not believe what you say, but I will fight for your freedom for you to say what you believe", I think that's a mature way to be.

No. You are wrong. I don't "respect your beliefs" when they're proven to be total bollocks. Just as I would not respect your beliefs if you believed that the Earth was flat or that a chicken burger gave a girl herpes. You deserve no respect for ignoring evidence handed to you on a plate.

(March 15, 2014 at 8:18 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: No. You are wrong. I don't "respect your beliefs" when they're proven to be total bollocks. Just as I would not respect your beliefs if you believed that the Earth was flat or that a chicken burger gave a girl herpes. You deserve no respect for ignoring evidence handed to you on a plate.

Ok, I respect that.

We strongly believe in your right to express your beliefs, but respecting those beliefs are something altogether different. I respect those that can logically defend their beliefs, even if I disagree with them.

But that's the deciding factor. Being able to logically support.

Allowing you the freedom to say what you believe does not equate to respecting the falsities that you spew from your uninformed mouth. It's more mature to reason by way of rational discussion, rather than to let adults act like children, applauding them when they put their fingers in their ears when their ideas are challenged.

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I will not respect someone who is unwilling to listen to facts and look over the evidence. You are allowed to act this way, yes, but it is not a respectable act.

(March 15, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Rahul Wrote: We strongly believe in your right to express your beliefs, but respecting those beliefs are something altogether different. I respect those that can logically defend their beliefs, even if I disagree with them.

But that's the deciding factor. Being able to logically support.

You see, I don't particularly have a belief, its more of an experience of what the vac. did to me when as a child, I and my parents believe that the polio vac. caused me to have epileptic fits for about four years. This is why I cannot totally believe that vac. is a good thing all round, now you must be able to see how I think about this ?.

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(March 15, 2014 at 8:39 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Allowing you the freedom to say what you believe does not equate to respecting the falsities that you spew from your uninformed mouth. It's more mature to reason by way of rational discussion, rather than to let adults act like children, applauding them when they put their fingers in their ears when their ideas are challenged.

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I will not respect someone who is unwilling to listen to facts and look over the evidence. You are allowed to act this way, yes, but it is not a respectable act.

Well, let it go.

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Vaccines are Dangerous: by Dr Sircus

http://drsircus.com/medicine/vaccines-dangerous

(March 15, 2014 at 9:17 pm)psychoslice Wrote: You see, I don't particularly have a belief, its more of an experience of what the vac. did to me when as a child, I and my parents believe that the polio vac. caused me to have epileptic fits for about four years. This is why I cannot totally believe that vac. is a good thing all round, now you must be able to see how I think about this ?.

Actually, what you are describing is exactly a belief. How do you know that the Polio Vaccine is what caused your fits? Yes, the fits coincided with the administration of the vaccine, but unless you have proof, you cannot say for a certainty that the vaccine is what caused your symptoms. Correlation =/= Causation.

If we were to use your logic and say that the administering of the Polio Vaccine coinciding with your epileptic fits means that the vaccine caused your symptoms, then we have just as much authority to say that breathing air is what caused your fits, because that also happened at the same time.

psychoslice Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 8:39 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Allowing you the freedom to say what you believe does not equate to respecting the falsities that you spew from your uninformed mouth. It's more mature to reason by way of rational discussion, rather than to let adults act like children, applauding them when they put their fingers in their ears when their ideas are challenged.

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I will not respect someone who is unwilling to listen to facts and look over the evidence. You are allowed to act this way, yes, but it is not a respectable act.

Well, let it go.

No. As long as you are here pushing your bullshit, I will be right here to oppose you. If I was standing in your house trying to light your living room on fire, would you just "let it go"? I would expect you to try and stop me, that you would show me how setting fire to your living room would have catastrophic consequences.

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That website you linked is pure satire, btw. Dr. Sircus excels at delivering fake medical news for shits and giggles. The first line is "The Government Says So!" Does that sound legitimate to you?

When I went to high school I grew from 5'4" to 6'1". Therefore I believe that everyone should go to high school if you would like to be taller.