what are your thoughts on a foreign nation lobbying in the us?????

The lobby is not of a foreign nation, it is a lobby of pro-Israel American citizens.

Frankly I'm not a fan of any lobbies. I'd like to do away with all of them.

(March 15, 2014 at 11:03 pm)Rahul Wrote: The lobby is not of a foreign nation, it is a lobby of pro-Israel American citizens.

Frankly I'm not a fan of any lobbies. I'd like to do away with all of them.

right but that lobby pushes policies that benefit a foreign nation

Like I said, I'm not a fan of any lobby. But the pro-israel one is pretty far down on my list who I would like to tell to fuck off.

Pat Buchanan once called the US Congress the "Israeli-occupied zone." Might be the only time in his life that Buchanan was right.

(March 15, 2014 at 11:05 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 11:03 pm)Rahul Wrote: The lobby is not of a foreign nation, it is a lobby of pro-Israel American citizens.

Frankly I'm not a fan of any lobbies. I'd like to do away with all of them.

right but that lobby pushes policies that benefit a foreign nation

Every lobby pushes policies that benefits their donors. That applies whether their donors are other nations or international corporations with very little vested inerest in the stability of the US government. Just the nature of the beast.

(March 15, 2014 at 11:13 pm)TaraJo Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 11:05 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: right but that lobby pushes policies that benefit a foreign nation

Every lobby pushes policies that benefits their donors. That applies whether their donors are other nations or international corporations with very little vested inerest in the stability of the US government. Just the nature of the beast.

yes i agree with you but the other lobbies are domestic lobbies

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(March 15, 2014 at 11:22 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 11:13 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Every lobby pushes policies that benefits their donors. That applies whether their donors are other nations or international corporations with very little vested inerest in the stability of the US government. Just the nature of the beast.

yes i agree with you but the other lobbies are domestic lobbies

and some jewish people from israel, former politicians. And others involved with the lobby have given testimony that the israel lobby is of no benifit to the united states

(March 15, 2014 at 11:22 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 11:13 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Every lobby pushes policies that benefits their donors. That applies whether their donors are other nations or international corporations with very little vested inerest in the stability of the US government. Just the nature of the beast.

yes i agree with you but the other lobbies are domestic lobbies

and some jewish people from israel, former politicians. And others involved with the lobby have given testimony that the israel lobby is of no benifit to the united states

1) You're doing that multi-quote thing again. Stop it.

2) Just because a lobby is domestic doesn't mean they have the best interests of the US at heart. In fact, I'd dare to say with what kind of damage the NRA is doing to us socio-politically, they're far more damaging than any Isreal lobby whether they're domestic or not.

(March 16, 2014 at 9:31 am)TaraJo Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 11:22 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: yes i agree with you but the other lobbies are domestic lobbies

and some jewish people from israel, former politicians. And others involved with the lobby have given testimony that the israel lobby is of no benifit to the united states

1) You're doing that multi-quote thing again. Stop it.

2) Just because a lobby is domestic doesn't mean they have the best interests of the US at heart. In fact, I'd dare to say with what kind of damage the NRA is doing to us socio-politically, they're far more damaging than any Isreal lobby whether they're domestic or not.

ok but hasent the us gone into the middle east partly to protect israel??

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(March 16, 2014 at 9:39 am)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 16, 2014 at 9:31 am)TaraJo Wrote: 1) You're doing that multi-quote thing again. Stop it.

2) Just because a lobby is domestic doesn't mean they have the best interests of the US at heart. In fact, I'd dare to say with what kind of damage the NRA is doing to us socio-politically, they're far more damaging than any Isreal lobby whether they're domestic or not.

ok but hasent the us gone into the middle east partly to protect israel??

the us congress votes on whether or not to go to war and the israel lobby has a great deal on influence in congress

(March 16, 2014 at 9:39 am)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 16, 2014 at 9:31 am)TaraJo Wrote: 1) You're doing that multi-quote thing again. Stop it.

2) Just because a lobby is domestic doesn't mean they have the best interests of the US at heart. In fact, I'd dare to say with what kind of damage the NRA is doing to us socio-politically, they're far more damaging than any Isreal lobby whether they're domestic or not.

ok but hasent the us gone into the middle east partly to protect israel??

the us congress votes on whether or not to go to war and the israel lobby has a great deal on influence in congress

Yep. That's kinda how lobbying works. We invaded Iraq at the request of oil companies lobbying, we imprison a huge number of our people at the request of lobbying from private prisons, we cut taxes on corporations to insanely low levels at the request of the Koch brothers and we maintain much more military than we need because of lobbying from defense contractors. We allow mentally disturbed people easy access to high power weapons because of lobbying from the NRA. They speak out for the benefit of their group; all of them. Just because the group in question happens to be a foreign nation doesn't make them any better than domestic entities.