(March 16, 2014 at 5:45 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Again, I have my beliefs about vac., you have yours, I will not change my mind with jerks insulting me, I have been trying to be nice but you have force me to lower myself to your level. Now grow up and except that others have their beliefs just like you, you may not respect their beliefs, but you must respect their freedom to have their beliefs. If I ever do change my mind, it will certainly not be becuae of you, non of you have shown the intelligence to be able to do that in a decent way, I will keep researching myself and maybe one day I will agree, but right now I don't, so get over it.

When your position is stupid and after stubbornly reiterating the same stupidity ad nauseaum without evidence, the most effective defense is to complain that people are calling you stupid, the damn world is wrong, you are right, those "big meanies".

(March 16, 2014 at 6:38 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(March 16, 2014 at 5:45 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Again, I have my beliefs about vac., you have yours, I will not change my mind with jerks insulting me, I have been trying to be nice but you have force me to lower myself to your level. Now grow up and except that others have their beliefs just like you, you may not respect their beliefs, but you must respect their freedom to have their beliefs. If I ever do change my mind, it will certainly not be becuae of you, non of you have shown the intelligence to be able to do that in a decent way, I will keep researching myself and maybe one day I will agree, but right now I don't, so get over it.

When your position is stupid and after stubbornly reiterating the same stupidity ad nauseaum without evidence, the most effective defense is to complain that people are calling you stupid, the damn world is wrong, you are right, those "big meanies".

I didn't say I as right, I said I feel that there is something wrong with vac., there has been a lot of proof that this could be true, and while there is proof I will not except vac.as being 100% right

(March 16, 2014 at 6:46 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I didn't say I as right, I said I feel that there is something wrong with vac., there has been a lot of proof that this could be true, and while there is proof I will not except vac.as being 100% right

If you had simply said "I feel that there is something wrong with vaccines" and left it at that, then that's one thing. However, in the same sentence, you tell us "there has been a lot of proof that this could be true". Why would you tell us this but not present this "proof"? If you've seen the proof, then it should be a simple matter of presenting it to us or giving us directions on how to find it. Instead, you say, "Go find it yourselves."

No. Just no.

The burden to provide this proof is on you because you are the one making the claim that there is proof. If it just so happens that there is no proof at all, then what right do you have to tell us that there is something wrong with vaccines?

Speaking of the whole "Go find it yourselves" thing.... I dunno if anyone else actually googled it to see what bullshit was out there, but did anyone else looking for the link between a Polio Vaccine and Schizophrenia get several pages of links with evidence suggesting that there is, in fact, a link between Polio and Schizophrenia? Namely, a decline in cases of schizophrenia coinciding with the Polio Vaccination? In other words, Polio Vaccination actually helps prevent Schizophrenia? Anyone else find that?

(March 16, 2014 at 7:28 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Speaking of the whole "Go find it yourselves" thing.... I dunno if anyone else actually googled it to see what bullshit was out there, but did anyone else looking for the link between a Polio Vaccine and Schizophrenia get several pages of links with evidence suggesting that there is, in fact, a link between Polio and Schizophrenia? Namely, a decline in cases of schizophrenia coinciding with the Polio Vaccination? In other words, Polio Vaccination actually helps prevent Schizophrenia? Anyone else find that?

No. But I'm certainly going to look.

Thanks for that!

Hey, don't be so angry, we all dance to a different beat.

Still waiting on that "proof" that you say is out there. If you have none, then your belief that vaccines cause illnesses is unjustified, and the fact that you use alarmist tactics to scare people into not using them is despicable. I'm very glad that the members of this forum are smart enough not to take your bullshit at face value, but I wonder if there's anyone you may have influenced along the way that may have seen you as an authority figure and taken your advice not to use vaccinations.

(March 16, 2014 at 9:31 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Still waiting on that "proof" that you say is out there. If you have none, then your belief that vaccines cause illnesses is unjustified, and the fact that you use alarmist tactics to scare people into not using them is despicable. I'm very glad that the members of this forum are smart enough not to take your bullshit at face value, but I wonder if there's anyone you may have influenced along the way that may have seen you as an authority figure and taken your advice not to use vaccinations.

Seems to be the way of these claimants. We have a couple of them on these forums at the moment.

They won't provide citation but just make claims.

(March 16, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: Seems to be the way of these claimants. We have a couple of them on these forums at the moment.

They won't provide citation but just make claims.

At least there aren't many religions out there that outright ban the use of vaccines (that I know of, barring a couple of sects in Islam).

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(March 16, 2014 at 9:07 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Hey, don't be so angry, we all dance to a different beat.

You dance to the wrong beat, and it scares good people into doing the wrong thing.

(March 16, 2014 at 9:44 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 16, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: Seems to be the way of these claimants. We have a couple of them on these forums at the moment.

They won't provide citation but just make claims.

At least there aren't many religions out there that outright ban the use of vaccines (that I know of, barring a couple of sects in Islam).

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(March 16, 2014 at 9:07 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Hey, don't be so angry, we all dance to a different beat.

You dance to the wrong beat, and it scares good people into doing the wrong thing.

True, but it's thanks to religious extremists (and, I'm sure, conspiracy nuts are involved, too) that polio is making somewhat of a comeback in parts of Asia and Africa.