(March 26, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote: How the fuck are drugs or explosives comparable to a foetus?

They are not.

But the claim is we shouldn't concern ourselves with the contents of a person's uterus because of privacy. Obviously there are instances when we should so the argument, "Its none of your business" is not a strong one.

(March 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm)truthBtold Wrote:

(March 26, 2014 at 5:43 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The choice has to be the mothers. Fathers too maybe. Sometimes we choose to do bad stuff. Some things are not rated bad. It's down to the individual. Whatever they decide has to be right for them. In the end that condemns or vindicates you; not what anyone not you thinks.

Im starting to like u but ur still a xtian.. almost there.. just some rope and.......

Whips?

(March 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Heywood Wrote: Obviously there are instances when we should so the argument, "Its none of your business" is not a strong one.

But that only depends on the instance.

(March 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(March 26, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote: How the fuck are drugs or explosives comparable to a foetus?

They are not.

But the claim is we shouldn't concern ourselves with the contents of a person's uterus because of privacy. Obviously there are instances when we should so the argument, "Its none of your business" is not a strong one.

In the case of abortion the contents of someone else's uterus is none of my business.

In the case of drug smuggling I would never try to force a drug smuggler to keep the drugs in their uterus until they were naturally expelled.

(March 26, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(March 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Heywood Wrote: Obviously there are instances when we should so the argument, "Its none of your business" is not a strong one.

But that only depends on the instance.

Doesn't it show that the state ultimately has governship over a woman's fetus?

If you want to argue the pro-abortion position that is fine. But choose a strong argument. The "right to privacy" isn't a compelling one.

(March 26, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Heywood Wrote: Doesn't it show that the state ultimately has governship over a woman's fetus?

Eh, since when are fetuses considered contraband and directly harmful to others..?

This wouldn't be an issue if we became more responsible with our bodies, The acts we participate in should be thought out and have the correct protection unless they wish to try for a child. Honestly though, life is brief why make people suffer due to their choice? I respect all but the most arrogant of people.

(March 26, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Heywood Wrote: Doesn't it show that the state ultimately has governship over a woman's fetus?

To an extent. But the same could be said not just about a woman's foetus, indeed, pretty much everything the woman owns. Even the woman herself.

Quote:If you want to argue the pro-abortion position that is fine. But choose a strong argument. The "right to privacy" isn't a compelling one.

It's not so much the right to privacy but the right to choice. And quit saying pro-abortion. Nobody is "pro baby killing".

(March 26, 2014 at 6:14 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Eh, since when are fetuses considered contraband and directly harmful to others..?

You are conflating the nature of contraband with the governship of the uterus. This argument isn't about the fetus. This argument is about who should be concerned with the contents of the uterus.

Like it or not, even though it may be your uterus, what is in it and what you do with the contents is the states business. You can't just say, "Its my body and therefore its no one's business but mine" and think you've won the argument.

(March 26, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(March 26, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Napoléon Wrote: But that only depends on the instance.

Doesn't it show that the state ultimately has governship over a woman's fetus?

If you want to argue the pro-abortion position that is fine. But choose a strong argument. The "right to privacy" isn't a compelling one.

No it does not. O.o

Also since you were responding originally to my comment, I wasn't making an argument. I was asked for my thoughts on abortion I was just giving my opinion.