(March 31, 2014 at 7:50 pm)ShaMan Wrote: By conservative estimates, more than 19,000,000 First People (Native Americans) were exterminated between 1871 and 1966 through various methods of genocidal means. Do we hear about this, or is what is shoved under our noses more tasteful than what has been there for decades? Our entire nation is swimming in original blood - our crimes have found us out.

Add to those the millions from central and south America.

(March 31, 2014 at 7:47 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: No problem...Yeah...more black babies aborted in New York than born = no problem

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...parenthood


40% of black pregnancies end in abortion.

I think I have more respect for those who are openly racist than someone who targets minorities under the pretense/disguise of healthcare services for the needy and disenfrachised.

What is obviously missing from that article is the proportional populations.

What are the ratios? What are the numbers of abortions per 100,000?

You make a lot of bullshit threads, TurdCunt.

(March 31, 2014 at 7:15 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: The evidence is out there. Do some research yourself.

I see you ignored the link

(March 31, 2014 at 7:51 pm)tor Wrote: Black people abort black babies?

Every abortion doc ive seen here in montana or new york was white.

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(March 31, 2014 at 9:55 pm)Chas Wrote:

(March 31, 2014 at 7:47 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: No problem...Yeah...more black babies aborted in New York than born = no problem

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...parenthood


40% of black pregnancies end in abortion.

I think I have more respect for those who are openly racist than someone who targets minorities under the pretense/disguise of healthcare services for the needy and disenfrachised.

What is obviously missing from that article is the proportional populations.

What are the ratios? What are the numbers of abortions per 100,000?

If African Americans made up even 25% of the population in America, your premise might not be totally irrational.

Tor, the reason Maragaret Sanger and the other fathers/mothers of Eugenics and planned parenthood could be open about their racist agenda, was because at that time there were segregation laws, and racism was more acceptable.

Now a days the only Eugenicists that would make such statements would be Neo Nazi's or some other blatantly racist group.

(March 31, 2014 at 10:53 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote:

(March 31, 2014 at 9:55 pm)Chas Wrote: What is obviously missing from that article is the proportional populations.

What are the ratios? What are the numbers of abortions per 100,000?

If African Americans made up even 25% of the population in America, your premise might not be totally irrational.

Your link was about abortions in New York City, you dumb fuck.

What do you think the ratios are in New York City?

Why the name calling? Have I ever called you a fowl name? How old are you?

Well there were more black babies aborted than born. I don't know what that statistics were for whites. I did missionary work in the ghetto of Buffalo New York (St. Lukes Mission of Mercy) for seven months. I've seen how planned parenthood clinics target Racial minorities. You can deny it all you like.

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Immigrant Africans, Caribbeans, and African Americans make up 25.1% of New York City's population. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic..._York_City

Overall, 42.4% of abortions in the city were of black children; another 31% came from the Hispanic community. Go figure!

(March 31, 2014 at 11:57 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Why the name calling? Have I ever called you a fowl name? How old are you?

Well there were more black babies aborted than born. I don't know what that statistics were for whites. I did missionary work in the ghetto of Buffalo New York (St. Lukes Mission of Mercy) for seven months. I've seen how planned parenthood clinics target Racial minorities. You can deny it all you like.

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Immigrant Africans, Caribbeans, and African Americans make up 25.1% of New York City's population. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic..._York_City

Overall, 42.4% of abortions in the city were of black children; another 31% came from the Hispanic community. Go figure!

I will, in fact, go figure. You have not. You are guilty of shallow analysis and simplistic understanding.

If one analyses the data, it can be seen that abortions in NYC are predominantly performed on teenagers, heavily weighted to the under 17 group.

And more so for non-white groups.

Note how many abortions are performed on girls age 10 -14. There is no indication of targeting any race. The data indicate that cultural factors are probably at the root of pregnancy at such young ages.

(March 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Planned Parenthood has a long and well-documented history of racism beginning with its founder, Margaret Sanger,

Are you familiar with the logical fallacy, "Poisoning the Well"

This logical fallacy is where you attempt to discredit a larger organization or idea by the character assassination of an advocate rather than discussing the organization or idea itself. The allegations against the advocate may or may not be true but the tactic is a fallacy either way (and if consciously invented, a dishonest debate tactic).

Creationists use this tactic with evolution, saying "Darwin was a racist".

This charge isn't true in the case of Darwin but even if it WERE true, it has nothing to do with whether or not evolution offers us a good understanding of the diversity of life. Talking about Darwin's alleged racism rather than the merits of evolutionary science is changing the subject (red herring fallacy) as well as implying that because Darwin was racist (he wasn't but let that go) that means that evolution must also be racist (association fallacy).

"Poisoning the Well" is like the ad hominem, red herring and association fallacy rolled into one.

Now your charges about the founder of Planned Parenthood may be true. Let's say they are. Heck, let's say she personally was involved in Nazi concentration camps and personally murdered millions of people. So what? What does this have to do with Planned Parenthood, never mind the larger issue of a woman's right to choice?

More on Poisoning the Well Fallacy here.

What pisses me off the most is that we DON'T know if those are actually aborted fetuses or if they were miscarriages or stillbirths.

I'm talking about the same damn pictures of "abortions" that have been circulating for such a long time. For all we know you could be looking at some poor woman's miscarried baby.

I don't think it's entirely poisoning the well in the sense that the organization itself is not intrinsically racist that I know of. I think abortion can ease a lot of suffering. I also know that an unwanted pregnancy has the potential to ruin a life. But knowing women that have had abortions, it can hurt women as well.

Many people would have been fortunate to be aborted. Perhaps myself.

However, abortion and sterilization can also be a means of extermination and genocide. I was in the ghetto. I've seen how abortion clinics are strategically placed in certain locations under the disguise of healthcare for struggling African American women.

I also know that Neo Nazi's and other racist groups or individuals donate money to planned parenthood with the orders that it be used specifically for and exclusively for African American women.

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(April 1, 2014 at 11:35 am)No_God Wrote: What pisses me off the most is that we DON'T know if those are actually aborted fetuses or if they were miscarriages or stillbirths.

I'm talking about the same damn pictures of "abortions" that have been circulating for such a long time. For all we know you could be looking at some poor woman's miscarried baby.

Probably not when it is dismembered or decapitated but I'm not denying that you do have a point in regard to the photographs of abortions.