Recent studies have shown that many birds, such as the ones shown here, are twice as intelligent as a 54 year old creationist.

If you took a random crow from the wild and did nothing else to it but give it that puzzle to solve....I bet the crow cannot solve the puzzle.

The reason this crow was able to solve the puzzle is because it has seen and solved all the component parts before.

Don't get me wrong...crows are very smart...but they are not nearly as smart as that video leads you to believe.

I've been contemplating teaching the crows on my property to pick up small pine cones in exchange for food.

Kinda like this guy did:

(April 17, 2014 at 11:07 am)Darwinian Wrote: Recent studies have shown that many birds, such as the ones shown here, are twice as intelligent as a 54 year old creationist.

So you are saying these birds are dumb as snails?

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The functional structure of bird brain is different from mammalian brain. Much of the cognitive activities that mammalian brain use the cereberal cortex to perform is in birds performed in a distributed fashion throughout the cerebellum.

A lot of empirical research into cognitive function of the brain has been done on mammals, so there is a tendency to correlate the thickness, area and infold convolutions of the cereberal cortex, which are entensive in humans, chimps and dolphins, with intelligence. This makes it surprising to many people that birds, with much smaller brains and minimal cerebral cortex, can also perform surprising amount of cognitive function.

(April 17, 2014 at 11:40 am)Chuck Wrote:

(April 17, 2014 at 11:07 am)Darwinian Wrote: Recent studies have shown that many birds, such as the ones shown here, are twice as intelligent as a 54 year old creationist.

So you are saying these birds are dumb as snails?

Sorry, should have said 'at least as twice as intelligent' :p

(April 17, 2014 at 11:54 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't trust them.

Hitchcock warned us.

A lot smarter than you'd think with those little heads.