Yes verse 3 does sound like a lot of Christians behavior towards the rest of the world.

Ya because you know the world is clearly more violent. You know with blacks having more rights and crime going down in other countries clearly the world is getting worst.

I think the world is much better than it once was by far, its just the media that makes it look bad, there are pockets of war around the world, but over all its a bloody good place to be.

I forgot to consider under-developed countries.

Regardless of the over-all condition of our world, I think it's good enough if improvements in Western society provide a clear counter-example, especially so since religion is declining in the Western world.

(April 30, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: this article which mentions the pessimistic predictions of 2 Timothy 3.

Holy fork! I didn't realize that was an article dedicated to end-time prophecies! I was just looking for the verses (e.g. the star prophecy in Numbers) that were used as the basis for the Isrealite's messiah beliefs. And here I go to analyze all their citations of end times prophecies. This will be FUN!!! Holy eff-you-see-kay! FUN! FUN! FUN! FUN IN A BUN!

I haven't read The Bible, and I will appreciate any context provided by anyone who has.

(April 30, 2014 at 6:45 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I think the world is much better than it once was by far, its just the media that makes it look bad, there are pockets of war around the world, but over all its a bloody good place to be.

Children killing children in schools, police at schools to protect students, drugs rampant in schools. Searching everyone at airports, terrorist luckily being stop most off the time, evil men and women trying to kill the innocent. Slavery at an all time high, great wealth separation, the environment in trouble, extinctions happening almost daily. Drug wars, ethnic wars, religious wars and wars of hate and land grabbing. Women being abused world wide in so many different ways, Child molestation at levels that are absolutely horrifying and it's unbelievable we allow this to go on at the rates it's happening, this shows that men has little concern for their fellow human beings. This is a good world and better than what and when?

GC

(April 30, 2014 at 6:56 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: I forgot to consider under-developed countries.

Regardless of the over-all condition of our world, I think it's good enough if improvements in Western society provide a clear counter-example, especially so since religion is declining in the Western world.

And thank god it is declining.

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(May 1, 2014 at 12:22 am)Godschild Wrote:

(April 30, 2014 at 6:45 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I think the world is much better than it once was by far, its just the media that makes it look bad, there are pockets of war around the world, but over all its a bloody good place to be.

Children killing children in schools, police at schools to protect students, drugs rampant in schools. Searching everyone at airports, terrorist luckily being stop most off the time, evil men and women trying to kill the innocent. Slavery at an all time high, great wealth separation, the environment in trouble, extinctions happening almost daily. Drug wars, ethnic wars, religious wars and wars of hate and land grabbing. Women being abused world wide in so many different ways, Child molestation at levels that are absolutely horrifying and it's unbelievable we allow this to go on at the rates it's happening, this shows that men has little concern for their fellow human beings. This is a good world and better than what and when?

GC

So you would rather live back in the dark ages when filthy religion ruled ?.

(May 1, 2014 at 12:22 am)Godschild Wrote: Children killing children in schools, police at schools to protect students, drugs rampant in schools. Searching everyone at airports, terrorist luckily being stop most off the time, evil men and women trying to kill the innocent. Slavery at an all time high, great wealth separation, the environment in trouble, extinctions happening almost daily. Drug wars, ethnic wars, religious wars and wars of hate and land grabbing. Women being abused world wide in so many different ways, Child molestation at levels that are absolutely horrifying and it's unbelievable we allow this to go on at the rates it's happening, this shows that men has little concern for their fellow human beings. This is a good world and better than what and when?

GC

Ah yes, the standard "ninety-nine percent equals zero percent," fallacy. How indicative of the binary way in which you see the world.

Would you agree that there's a difference between "better" and "perfect" GC? Because, for example, you point a finger at women being abused as proof that things aren't better today, but at least nowadays there's a much improved chance that those abusers might be punished by the law for their actions, as opposed to when your religion ruled, when they would just be able to buy the women they abused as wives.