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Pleas from a YEC
May 21, 2014 at 11:41 pm
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
May 22, 2014 at 2:29 am
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2014 at 2:35 am by Lucanus.)
I assume you are quoting him when you say
Quote: A yeast cell to be converted into a round worm would need 13,000 additional information of gene coding to do such. Mathematically. That is impossible. However, I will give you credit. In an infinite universe. I believe in infinite possibilities.
It doesn't take a geneticist to say this argument is a pile of bovine excrement; even though mutations are random, evolution DOES NOT make yeast cells into ground worms on a whim.
It takes millions of years of genetic isolation to make random, small, mutations influence the allelic frequencies of a population, thus making the population itself change with time. Also, you must take into account natural selection that makes drastic changes quickly become the norm under the right situations.
A mutation big enough to make a yeast directly into a worm would probably kill the poor thing: it might carry some lethal combination of genes which was not selected against in the past. Such a mutation could be possible, but the chances of it happening are the same chances a YEC will ever read a fucking science book... And even then, it would not be considered an example of evolution, but an horrid mutation.
These people need to stop thinking that living beings evolve the same way pokemon do
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
May 22, 2014 at 2:32 am
YEC's are impervious to facts.
They shed them like ducks shed water.
Or...in the case of creatards....crocoducks.
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Pleas from a YEC
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
May 22, 2014 at 2:33 am
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
May 22, 2014 at 3:06 am
More....
What provided the single celled organisms with the genetic information needed for mutation. Cells are like a computer. Info in. Doesn't breed info out. It needs input. Sorry love. But I am through with scientific debate. Just put it this way. The Jews have been placed back in is real in 1948. The scientists are stating that oceanic life will cease in 2048. The prophecy state that the 3rd time the Jews are sent back to Israel the lord will come and the generation to see this will not die. The bible and the new testament are the oldest books next too homers Odyssey. The odyssey has thousands of literary discrepancies. The bible less than 100.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
May 22, 2014 at 3:48 am
(May 22, 2014 at 3:06 am)Luckie Wrote: More....
What provided the single celled organisms with the genetic information needed for mutation. Cells are like a computer. Info in. Doesn't breed info out. It needs input. Yes input that has demonstrably shown to come from the enviroment.
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Sorry love. But I am through with scientific debate. Just put it this way. The Jews have been placed back in is real in 1948.
There was always some jews there to begin. Also no one "put" the jew there but themselves or a period of 30 years.
Quote: The scientists are stating that oceanic life will cease in 2048.
Citation sorely needed for that extraordinary claim
Quote: The prophecy state that the 3rd time the Jews are sent back to Israel the lord will come and the generation to see this will not die.
First of all, where does it say that? So according to what you say here, we need to boot all the jews out of isreal agian? And what ship them back on wesjet in a year or two?
Quote: The bible and the new testament are the oldest books next too homers Odyssey. The odyssey has thousands of literary discrepancies. The bible less than 100.
Just going to name a few that are older then the bible off the top of my head.
Plato's republic
Euclid's sarced geometry
Caesar's Gallic wars
Hippocraitc corpus
The hindu's vedas (all 4)
Plutarch's books ( all three life's of)
Jason the Argonauts
I think that proves my point
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
May 22, 2014 at 4:04 am
(May 21, 2014 at 11:41 pm)Luckie Wrote: I am talking to a YEC who believes in the sacred flower shape being God everywhere. Yeah.
I'll have some of what theyre smokin'
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
May 22, 2014 at 4:48 am
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RE: Pleas from a YEC
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