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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 8, 2014 at 9:10 am
What is beyond the edge of the Observable Universe?
I suggest that this is utterly irrelevant, as whatever may or may not be there can by definition have absolutely no effect upon us.
It's also as futile as playing 'Guess what's on the other side of the hill' with the Duke of Wellington, (You may wish to study the 'reverse slope tactic' to understand this)
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 1:33 am)Alice Wrote: (June 3, 2014 at 10:34 pm)Lek Wrote: Yes. But it would have a supernatural explanation, not a natural one.
What's the difference?
The difference is that if it has a supernatural explanation science is not equipped to come up with an explanation. It means something exists beyond the natural world.
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 1:33 am)Alice Wrote: What's the difference?
The difference is that if it has a supernatural explanation science is not equipped to come up with an explanation. It means something exists beyond the natural world.
Only psyche ward patients and religious mystics who hear voices no one else can are equipped to understand the supernatural. Right, Lek?
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm)Lek Wrote: The difference is that if it has a supernatural explanation science is not equipped to come up with an explanation. It means something exists beyond the natural world.
Only psyche ward patients and religious mystics who hear voices no one else can are equipped to understand the supernatural. Right, Lek?
No. We're all equipped to recognize God.
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 9, 2014 at 1:41 am
(June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Only psyche ward patients and religious mystics who hear voices no one else can are equipped to understand the supernatural. Right, Lek?
No. We're all equipped to recognize God.
Rather, a lot of us are equipped to "see" God in many things.
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 9, 2014 at 2:54 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 9:10 am)Mr Greene Wrote: What is beyond the edge of the Observable Universe?
Who cares? What can be observed is not necessarily that which is.
Quote:I suggest that this is utterly irrelevant, as whatever may or may not be there can by definition have absolutely no effect upon us.
It's also as futile as playing 'Guess what's on the other side of the hill' with the Duke of Wellington, (You may wish to study the 'reverse slope tactic' to understand this)
But.... I can tell you what lies beyond everything.
Nothing 
(June 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm)Lek Wrote: The difference is that if it has a supernatural explanation science is not equipped to come up with an explanation. It means something exists beyond the natural world.
I'm not seeing how that first bit is any different than the natural. How can any non-nothing exist beyond 'the natural world'? 
(June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Lek Wrote: No. We're all equipped to recognize God.
We're also all equipped such that we die when exposed to temperatures up to 10,000 degrees ©... unless we've picked up the Shroud of the Neversummer from the final boss in Naxxramas.
(June 9, 2014 at 1:41 am)Irrational Wrote: Rather, a lot of us are equipped to "see" God in many things.
Such as Legos.
Real pain in the heel, that one.
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Only psyche ward patients and religious mystics who hear voices no one else can are equipped to understand the supernatural. Right, Lek?
No. We're all equipped to recognize God.
How does that work?
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 9, 2014 at 8:40 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Lek Wrote: We're all equipped to recognize God.
Observation informs us that this statement is false, indeed even your own scripture states that it is false, ref; Judas.
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 11, 2014 at 6:08 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 2:04 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The Big Bang Theory is a Catholic theory of creation. It's as silly as the Genesis theory.
Pretty sure the Vedic religious traditions, including Hinduism, have the catholics beat by about 3500 years.
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help
June 11, 2014 at 6:34 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Only psyche ward patients and religious mystics who hear voices no one else can are equipped to understand the supernatural. Right, Lek?
No. We're all equipped to recognize God.
My god-detector is in the shop for a chipset upgrade. Fvckin' thing hasn't worked the last 35 years.
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