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Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 11:12 am
Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
That moral tenet is about the only objective moral tenet I know of that has not been shown to ever be subjective. Yahweh seems to be doing the wrong thing.
We are told that most of us will end on the wide road to hell while the few end on the narrow path to heaven.
It is demonstrable that nature creates for the best possible end.
Why does Yahweh not follow the better rules he gave nature, and creates us for the worst possible end for the vast majority of us?
A decent father would not have the morals or ethics Yahweh seems to follow.
If true, then we end with more souls lost to Satan than souls saved by Yahweh. Even as scriptures say that Yahweh wills that all souls be saved.
God not getting his will is not allowed. God must always come out ahead. Something is not right for god.
Thoughts?
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 11:42 am
The question leads to an intractable question comparable to Plantinga's free will defense. This assumes that he could have saved more by prioritizing this maxim. That's not a given.
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 12:05 pm
Considering it was just a few lazy, greedy fucks that invented "god" it only goes to reason.....
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 12:08 pm
You mean like why does Joel Osteen live like a king?
Gawd needs spokespeople who can bring in the suckers.
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 12:39 pm
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(December 23, 2020 at 11:42 am)Angrboda Wrote: The question leads to an intractable question comparable to Plantinga's free will defense. This assumes that he could have saved more by prioritizing this maxim. That's not a given.
The tenet in question is objective ands always correct.
That makes Yahweh incorrect in his morals.
Yahweh also has a free will, even if only imaginary in his case, and his will is planning on evil instead of good, if the bible is correct.
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(December 23, 2020 at 12:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Considering it was just a few lazy, greedy fucks that invented "god" it only goes to reason.....
Lazy???
Our religious con men and lying preachers are not lazy.
They are just evil liars.
Some likely are lazy though so ypou get half marks on this one buddy.
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(December 23, 2020 at 12:08 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You mean like why does Joel Osteen live like a king?
Gawd needs spokespeople who can bring in the suckers.
Please no.
There are already too many of those.
There aught to be a law against such outright fraud. Right?
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 12:54 pm
Religion was invented by a lazy fucker....
He did not want to do the hunting or gathering. He didn't want to gather firewood. He didn't want to tan the pelts, haul water or even sweep out the cave.
He just wanted to sit around the fire, make up stories and suck up free meals.
The evil fuckers came along later - realizing they could use the lazy guy's schtick to control everyone and get the best caverwomen for themselves...
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 12:57 pm
Yeah, I'm out. It's just Greatest I am with his usual stupidity. I didn't question the tenet, I questioned a specific hypothetical about its possible realization. You don't get from the tenet to God is immoral in a single bound, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time explaining why because you will just do what you did the last time, ignore the substance of the objections and double down on your original claim. Trying to have an intelligent discussion with you is a waste of time.
To repeat, because it's possible that he couldn't have saved more people, it's a non sequitur to conclude without further argument that he is immoral for not doing so. Nobody is immoral for not doing the impossible, even God.
Now fuck off.
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 1:02 pm
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(December 23, 2020 at 12:54 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Religion was invented by a lazy fucker....
He did not want to do the hunting or gathering. He didn't want to gather firewood. He didn't want to tan the pelts, haul water or even sweep out the cave.
He just wanted to sit around the fire, make up stories and suck up free meals.
The evil fuckers came along later - realizing they could use the lazy guy's schtick to control everyone and get the best caverwomen for themselves...
You blame the religious, and they deserve it, but seem to forget that the King or tribal leaders went along and even encouraged it with tax breaks and what not.
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(December 23, 2020 at 12:57 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Yeah, I'm out. It's just Greatest I am with his usual stupidity. I didn't question the tenet, I questioned a specific hypothetical about its possible realization. You don't get from the tenet to God is immoral in a single bound, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time explaining why because you will just do what you did the last time, ignore the substance of the objections and double down on your original claim. Trying to have an intelligent discussion with you is a waste of time.
To repeat, because it's possible that he couldn't have saved more people, it's a non sequitur to conclude without further argument that he is immoral for not doing so. Nobody is immoral for not doing the impossible, even God.
Now fuck off.
Nothing is impossible for a god, to believers.
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 1:07 pm
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(December 23, 2020 at 1:02 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: (December 23, 2020 at 12:57 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Yeah, I'm out. It's just Greatest I am with his usual stupidity. I didn't question the tenet, I questioned a specific hypothetical about its possible realization. You don't get from the tenet to God is immoral in a single bound, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time explaining why because you will just do what you did the last time, ignore the substance of the objections and double down on your original claim. Trying to have an intelligent discussion with you is a waste of time.
To repeat, because it's possible that he couldn't have saved more people, it's a non sequitur to conclude without further argument that he is immoral for not doing so. Nobody is immoral for not doing the impossible, even God.
Now fuck off.
Nothing is impossible for a god, to believers.
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Not according to mainstream theology. So, you're ignorant as well as stupid. Good to know.
And just to put a pin in it, then your argument would only apply to those people's specific god and not just any god. That way leads to another non sequitur.
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RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
December 23, 2020 at 1:20 pm
(December 23, 2020 at 1:07 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (December 23, 2020 at 1:02 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Nothing is impossible for a god, to believers.
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Not according to mainstream theology.
Really. Get some quotes on this, or take your vile personality, bitch, and you fuck off.
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