(August 6, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Losty Wrote: Okay, but how do you know it was caused by the vaccine? Did you have an allergic reaction to it?

He knows because reasons. Apparently, he said a few posts ago that all we need is common sense to figure this out. Oh, if only sense were so common...

(August 6, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Losty Wrote: Okay, but how do you know it was caused by the vaccine? Did you have an allergic reaction to it?

Call it a allergic reaction or not, it still happened, just after the polio vaccine, how many times do I need to say this, if you get all your info from those who make the vaccines, then of course you are going to hear what they want you to hear.

(August 6, 2014 at 8:03 pm)psychoslice Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Losty Wrote: Okay, but how do you know it was caused by the vaccine? Did you have an allergic reaction to it?

Call it a allergic reaction or not, it still happened, just after the polio vaccine, how many times do I need to say this, if you get all your info from those who make the vaccines, then of course you are going to hear what they want you to hear.

Our reaction to your sob story isn't because we are vaccine shills; it's because we are skeptics. If you step on a crack and fifteen minutes your mother slips, falls, and breaks her back, was it because of your choice of footing or because of reasons beyond your control or reasoning?

(August 6, 2014 at 8:03 pm)psychoslice Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Losty Wrote: Okay, but how do you know it was caused by the vaccine? Did you have an allergic reaction to it?

Call it a allergic reaction or not, it still happened, just after the polio vaccine, how many times do I need to say this, if you get all your info from those who make the vaccines, then of course you are going to hear what they want you to hear.

I am not calling it an allergic reaction. I am just asking a question. Did you get a really high fever shortly after being vaccinated? If so did your parents take you to the hospital? How long after you were vaccinated did the migraines and "fits" start? When you say fits, do you mean seizures or something else?
And again I ask how do you know it was caused by the vaccines?
I don't get my knowledge from the people who make the vaccines only. I have admitted more than once that I do not know a lot about vaccines. I am asking because (and bear with me because I am making up fake statistics off the top of my head) if 3 people out of 100,000 start having migraines after getting vaccinated, it seems safe to me to assume that the vaccines did not actually cause the migraines.

I have had a terrible memory since I got pregnant with my oldest daughter. I forget what I'm saying in the middle of sentences. I lose my phone while talking on it. I replace my drivers license at least twice a year. I accidentally mix up Spanish and English when speaking. I forget how to say words in my native language. My brain hates short term memory. I always joke that becoming a mother made me crazy, but I don't think that's the actual cause.

(August 6, 2014 at 8:03 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Call it a allergic reaction or not, it still happened, just after the polio vaccine, how many times do I need to say this, if you get all your info from those who make the vaccines, then of course you are going to hear what they want you to hear.

Why are we supposed to take you at faith if we aren't supposed to take the makers of vaccines at faith?

They've got the data on their side. You are telling us that the data can't be trusted. You justify this assertion because you think a vaccine did something to you. You justify this assertion in no objective manner at all. You have no data. You don't even have an educated guess. You insinuate ulterior motives but have no evidence supporting that assertion, either.

And, that's not even accounting for the possibility that you are correct about the vaccine negatively affecting you and you're just an outlier. Almost everyone vaccinates and almost no one reports ill effects. There is no proof of intentional malice.

Objectively, you are a vastly less trustworthy source of information in comparison to the vaccine manufacturers. The only reasonable conclusion to draw is that you don't care whether or not you are right, because you believe what you wish to be true. To dismiss the religious as "having no proof" is insanely hypocritical in light of this. To dismiss the vaccine manufacturers as "saying what they want you to hear" is equally hypocritical. You have no proof and you are only saying what you want us to hear.

The tinfoil hat is strong with this one..

(August 6, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 8:03 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Call it a allergic reaction or not, it still happened, just after the polio vaccine, how many times do I need to say this, if you get all your info from those who make the vaccines, then of course you are going to hear what they want you to hear.

Our reaction to your sob story isn't because we are vaccine shills; it's because we are skeptics. If you step on a crack and fifteen minutes your mother slips, falls, and breaks her back, was it because of your choice of footing or because of reasons beyond your control or reasoning?

If there was many people falling over because of the crack, then you would get it fixed so it wont happen to anyone else.

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(August 6, 2014 at 8:41 pm)Losty Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 8:03 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Call it a allergic reaction or not, it still happened, just after the polio vaccine, how many times do I need to say this, if you get all your info from those who make the vaccines, then of course you are going to hear what they want you to hear.

I am not calling it an allergic reaction. I am just asking a question. Did you get a really high fever shortly after being vaccinated? If so did your parents take you to the hospital? How long after you were vaccinated did the migraines and "fits" start? When you say fits, do you mean seizures or something else?
And again I ask how do you know it was caused by the vaccines?
I don't get my knowledge from the people who make the vaccines only. I have admitted more than once that I do not know a lot about vaccines. I am asking because (and bear with me because I am making up fake statistics off the top of my head) if 3 people out of 100,000 start having migraines after getting vaccinated, it seems safe to me to assume that the vaccines did not actually cause the migraines.

I have had a terrible memory since I got pregnant with my oldest daughter. I forget what I'm saying in the middle of sentences. I lose my phone while talking on it. I replace my drivers license at least twice a year. I accidentally mix up Spanish and English when speaking. I forget how to say words in my native language. My brain hates short term memory. I always joke that becoming a mother made me crazy, but I don't think that's the actual cause.

Well it could possibly be because you becoming a mother, I don't really know, but I have already told you what I need to, if you don't believe it then that's ok, that's your right, I wont take that away from you.

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(August 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 8:03 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Call it a allergic reaction or not, it still happened, just after the polio vaccine, how many times do I need to say this, if you get all your info from those who make the vaccines, then of course you are going to hear what they want you to hear.

Why are we supposed to take you at faith if we aren't supposed to take the makers of vaccines at faith?

They've got the data on their side. You are telling us that the data can't be trusted. You justify this assertion because you think a vaccine did something to you. You justify this assertion in no objective manner at all. You have no data. You don't even have an educated guess. You insinuate ulterior motives but have no evidence supporting that assertion, either.

And, that's not even accounting for the possibility that you are correct about the vaccine negatively affecting you and you're just an outlier. Almost everyone vaccinates and almost no one reports ill effects. There is no proof of intentional malice.

Objectively, you are a vastly less trustworthy source of information in comparison to the vaccine manufacturers. The only reasonable conclusion to draw is that you don't care whether or not you are right, because you believe what you wish to be true. To dismiss the religious as "having no proof" is insanely hypocritical in light of this. To dismiss the vaccine manufacturers as "saying what they want you to hear" is equally hypocritical. You have no proof and you are only saying what you want us to hear.

You have no proof either, you just simply believe what you are told, by the ones who give out that crap, of course their going to protect their arss, can you imagine if the public found out the truth, look what happened to the tobacco companies, even doctors once promoted smoking cigarettes.

(August 6, 2014 at 1:53 am)psychoslice Wrote: I'm getting a bit sick of all this, I have shared my thoughts and that is where its going to finish, some things cannot be proven, but common sense prevails. I believe that vaccines did cause my fits, migraines, and schizophrenia, you can believe whatever you want, you can be right if that is what you want, I don't give a shit.

Spoken like a true believer!

"Well it could possibly be because you becoming a mother, I don't really know, but I have already told you what I need to, if you don't believe it then that's ok, that's your right, I wont take that away from you."

You have given me absolutely nothing to work with. I am trying to pry facts and evidence out of you. I am trying desperately not to discount your story as a load of Blue Sky because I know how much that offends you, but you resist me at every turn. I give up. I do not believe that vaccines caused your problems. I am not saying that they didn't. I'm just saying I do not believe they did. There's no reason to believe anything when you're given zero evidence.

(August 6, 2014 at 11:20 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 1:53 am)psychoslice Wrote: I'm getting a bit sick of all this, I have shared my thoughts and that is where its going to finish, some things cannot be proven, but common sense prevails. I believe that vaccines did cause my fits, migraines, and schizophrenia, you can believe whatever you want, you can be right if that is what you want, I don't give a shit.

Spoken like a true believer!

Conspiracy theory extraordinaire P'slice!