Quote:What is one to do with a people who's culture is centered around killing God's people?

Cheer them on!

I believe there is a special tool for fixing the bible:

(October 11, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Drich Wrote: When I first saw the scene you speak of I thought it was a very anti God, pro atheism scene. Then after seeing the rest of the series and movie a few times, it hit me. River, as 'smart' as she was at her core was broken.
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'It is about believing in something, and letting that belief be strong enought to change your life. You don't fix faith River. Faith fixes you.'

Christianity: Asserting you're broken in a completely nonfalsifiable way and then selling you the nonfalsifiable fix.

At least the mafia can demonstrate the consequences of not buying into their protection racket.

(October 12, 2014 at 12:29 am)Drich Wrote:

(October 11, 2014 at 11:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Hitler was one of your people, Drippy. He'd never burn a bible.

You should be old enought to remember these things... Or maybe you old enough to be still propagating the orginal views of the national socialist.

Either way your an idiot, or you hope the mindless atheist who read what you post are. You can't tell me you've never heard the term 'positive christianity' as it relates to the nazi party?

Educate yourself.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

I have read the whole article….

And so far I don't see any part were it says that Hitler either burned a bible, or stopped being christian….so I don't see what is it about this article that refutes what minimalist said.

I was asking Minnie if he was an old nazi himself. If he was he would have recognized the term Kirchenkampf. For any other person reading Kirchenkampf is indeed mentioned in that artical. For anyone looking for an honest answer to this question they would have looked up a term they did not understand.

Herr Drich, whatever do you mean mein freund?

(October 13, 2014 at 3:18 pm)RobbyPants Wrote:

(October 11, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Drich Wrote: When I first saw the scene you speak of I thought it was a very anti God, pro atheism scene. Then after seeing the rest of the series and movie a few times, it hit me. River, as 'smart' as she was at her core was broken.
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'It is about believing in something, and letting that belief be strong enought to change your life. You don't fix faith River. Faith fixes you.'

Christianity: Asserting you're broken in a completely nonfalsifiable way and then selling you the nonfalsifiable fix.

At least the mafia can demonstrate the consequences of not buying into their protection racket.

That's not true. Even those outside of christianity, outside religion acknoweledge right and wrong. (Their own versions of sin and righteousness.)
And in the secular version there is forgiveness and attonement.

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(October 15, 2014 at 8:03 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Herr Drich, whatever do you mean mein freund?

Kirchenkampf means 'church struggles.' Or rather the struggles the nazi party sponsered church had with the Christian church. The kirchenkampf was a social military campaign (much like the one waged against the Jews and genetically impure.) to wipe out all traces of Christianity in hitler's Germany. Durning the kirchenkampf the bible was deemed a bann book. Like all other bann books the bible was burned.

There is a link explaining the kirchenkampf in the wiki link I left on 'positive christianity.'

Yes, there is right or wrong, but lawmakers are meant to be held accountable to the people. There is atonement, but for the people who are directly wrong. Not towards a third party who feels offended at people doing bad things.

(October 15, 2014 at 9:33 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, there is right or wrong, but lawmakers are meant to be held accountable to the people. There is atonement, but for the people who are directly wrong. Not towards a third party who feels offended at people doing bad things.

What are you talking about?

You're trying to say even people outside christianity know right and wrong and have atonement, and I'm saying it's quite different from the christian version. They're not really all that comparable.