(October 14, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Drich Wrote: Why is a non equal gender role a bad thing?

Seriously? Um... because discriminating on the basis of sex or race is unjust, demeaning, disrespectful, and any other words your sense of basic decency can formulate to describe it?

(October 14, 2014 at 1:01 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Have you ever heard the word FREEDOM?

If we live in any type of soceity, none of us are truly free. We all have roles to play with in said soceity. So what is the difference here?

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(October 14, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(October 14, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Drich Wrote: Why is a non equal gender role a bad thing?

Seriously? Um... because discriminating on the basis of sex or race is unjust, demeaning, disrespectful, and any other words your sense of basic decency can formulate to describe it?

Why?

(October 14, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 14, 2014 at 1:01 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Have you ever heard the word FREEDOM?

If we live in any type of soceity, none of us are truly free. We all have roles to play with in said soceity. So what is the difference here?

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(October 14, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Seriously? Um... because discriminating on the basis of sex or race is unjust, demeaning, disrespectful, and any other words your sense of basic decency can formulate to describe it?

Why?

There's a difference between "A society needs certain roles to be filled", and "Society telling people to fill certain roles based on their gender". You must see the difference there.

What would you do if you were forced to work as a police officer?

soceity tells us to fill role based on many different factors. Race, social class, ecconomic status, education to name a few. why are these role restrictions any different than gender?

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(October 14, 2014 at 1:12 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: What would you do if you were forced to work as a police officer?

I would be a cop.

Drich, no more from you. I have it on divine authority that anyone who is male and Christian must not ask questions on the forums but remain silent. Ask your wife to educate you. I pronounce that as her responsibility.

What's wrong with that?

(October 14, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Drich Wrote: soceity tells us to fill role based on many different factors. Race, social class, ecconomic status, education to name a few. why are these role restrictions any different than gender?

Just because "society tells us", doesn't mean it's right. Don't bother bringing up education because that's not something you're born with and it's something you can change with increasing ease. Statuses that you don't choose, such as race and gender and sexuality, should not be bases for one's role because they have absolutely nothing to do with the ability of the person to fulfill that role.

(October 14, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Drich, no more from you. I have it on divine authority that anyone who is male and Christian must not ask questions on the forums but remain silent. Ask your wife to educate you. I pronounce that as her responsibility.

What's wrong with that?

Nothing if you can demonstrate said authority in which you made your decree.

Otherwise, you are looking for control over another not entitled to you.

Which again all of our collective soceities have this control over us, now. What is the difference if the control is based on gender or if it is based on the money you make? It is that exact same level of control.

Youre fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Drich, nobody disagrees that some parts of society DO try to assign roles based on these things, we're saying it's wrong to do that, and we should try to change it.

(October 14, 2014 at 1:16 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Just because "society tells us", doesn't mean it's right.

You don't seem to mind.

Quote: Don't bother bringing up education because that's not something you're born with and it's something you can change with increasing ease.

That's not true at all. Some of us are indeed born with diagnosiable and recognized learning disablities that keep us from learning in the only way soceity teaches our kids. If you cant pick up what is being taught, you are quickly left behind with no hope of ever becomming a productive member of soceity, less devinne intervention.

Quote:Statuses that you don't choose, such as race and gender and sexuality, should not be bases for one's role because they have absolutely nothing to do with the ability of the person to fulfill that role.

But, again how are these controlling factors any different from any other?