OK I'll bite.
No it isn't the Vatican (but they are right up there in the "Want to run the world " group.

I think two of my posts detailing the Luciferian roots of Masonry disappeared mysteriously.
At that point I thought someone one AF either is affiliated with them or is afraid the spiritual side of that vast organization comes out.
I do not know if every Masonic building is a temple (that would be a building in which a deity is worshiped) but they do call them Masonic temples. Within them is an altar.
Altars have to do with worship of a deity.

Albert Pike who wrote the Masonic handbook, "Morals and Dogma" stated,

(Fair use for information purposes
That which we must say to the crowd is - We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition.

To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General [of the 33rd degree], we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees - The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.

If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay, the God of the Christians, whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy, and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests, calumniate him?

Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.
(End of quote)

The above is found within the higher degrees, those in the lower levels simply believe they are involved with a fraternity of sorts.

It is interesting to me that Pike turns the biblical table around 180 degrees to castigate the Biblical God and elevate Satan (lucifer).
At least you guys don't do that.
Pike elucidated about a plan of 3 great wars (he was inspired to say that I heard) to make men so fed up with war that they would be willing to embrace a world government.
( my comment- Headed by - guess who)
Pike was a genius, spoke many languages, too bad he worked the wrong side of the fence.

Shiny side out, prof.

Nobody cares if you talk about Freemasons here, and certainly nobody is going to delete posts on that topic (or any other that isn't spam). Point and laugh yes, delete - no.

Seriously, seek professional help for your delusions.

Ebola is carried by certain species of bats that a lot of west African villagers still eat as bush meat.

As the virus is very difficult to 'kill', even through cooking, the propensity for infection is relatively high.

Couple that together with the fact that Ebola spreads easily in communities with no infection control and it easily explains the current crisis.

Also, If terrorists were to weaponise Ebola (difficult but not impossible), you have to ask why they'd bother infecting west African States that have very little strategic value and are actually relatively close to the Arab world in terms of infection spread.

I'd also like to add that it's actually people who hold similar views to the professor that are, in part, responsible for the spread of Ebola in WA. Paranoia and suspicion over those trying to help treat Ebola sufferes and the nature of Ebola itself is a reason why so
Many thousands are dying and many thousands more are becoming infected.

When really all Ebola is is a virus probably originating from bushmeat and first discovered by some Belgian/Dutch scientists in a Hospital run by nuns next to the Ebola river

That's a good one Fidel.
Blame interference of treatment on us? Yeah right.

---

I am curious Cthu about the precise delusion you are referring to?
A delusion that un-named people run the world?
A delusion that Mr. Pike was a Masonic spokesman and leader?
A delusion that Masonry has a spiritual underbelly (freely admitted by Pike)?
A delusion that Masonry has a goal?

There truly are delusions.
They are very popular, even here.

(October 12, 2014 at 9:46 pm)professor Wrote: That's a good one Fidel.
Blame interference of treatment on us? Yeah right.

---

I am curious Cthu about the precise delusion you are referring to?
A delusion that un-named people run the world?
A delusion that Mr. Pike was a Masonic spokesman and leader?
A delusion that Masonry has a spiritual underbelly (freely admitted by Pike)?
A delusion that Masonry has a goal?

There truly are delusions.
They are very popular, even here.

Clearly I was referring to the conspiracy to keep you from discussing freemasonry here.

(October 12, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Also, If terrorists were to weaponise Ebola (difficult but not impossible), you have to ask why they'd bother infecting west African States that have very little strategic value and are actually relatively close to the Arab world in terms of infection spread.

I think the concerns about the weapnization of ebola are about terrorists taking advantage of this outbreak to do so, rather than stating that this outbreak is the product of weaponization.

At least, that is my concern.

(October 12, 2014 at 9:46 pm)professor Wrote: That's a good one Fidel.
Blame interference of treatment on us? Yeah right.

Yeah, on people like you.

Unfounded cynicism over treatments and containment procedures has led to massive amounts of people getting infected. Even simple things like isolating family members who have been infected would help, but fear of men in white coats (or haz suits) has crippled even this.

I know your grasp of this basic form of infection control and medicine per second is very, very limited and that you're about as insane and as crazy as they come, but you and your ilk are indeed party to blame.

Blood on your hands, prof. Blood on your hands. But it's ok so long as your conspiracy addled mind doesn't have to think, eh?

(October 13, 2014 at 2:49 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(October 12, 2014 at 9:46 pm)professor Wrote: That's a good one Fidel.
Blame interference of treatment on us? Yeah right.

Yeah, on people like you.

Unfounded cynicism over treatments and containment procedures has led to massive amounts of people getting infected. Even simple things like isolating family members who have been infected would help, but fear of men in white coats (or haz suits) has crippled even this.

I know your grasp of this basic form of infection control and medicine per second is very, very limited and that you're about as insane and as crazy as they come, but you and your ilk are indeed party to blame.

Blood on your hands, prof. Blood on your hands. But it's ok so long as your conspiracy addled mind doesn't have to think, eh?

I would take issue with it being anyone but Africa's fault. To add context.

I was watching a documentary the other day about Ebola, a journalist was travelling through some villages in Africa to gain a better insight as to the problem.

The government of these African countries had put a ban on 'bush meat', yet the journalist found 'bush meat' was still a main source of food for the African villages. People openly traded and ate the meat regardless of Ebola.

When asked why they responded with;

We believe it is a lie, we believe the government is just short on cash and trying to extort the other countries for aid.

This is indicative of, almost, every African community everywhere. Crying wolf and racist, demanding a hand up and special treatment as your neighbour while their brothers in Africa demand a hand out.
Blaming everyone else for their net defecate in all we consider important to modern society, and their over representation in all that is counter productive.

If any westerner is in any way to blame it is because we gave them so much aid, we have artificially boosted their population and they don't have the societal infrastructure to maintain it.
Ever problem in Africa is for us to deal with, because racism. Eventually their population will reach a certain size and the inherent problems will be so bad, that we will not be able to foot the bill for their next 'boo boo'.

If we are lucky it will merely be another genocide, if not it will be something like Ebola that can kill us as well.

I think the above is overly parsimonious and misses out some salient points about both the nature of infection contraction and control and the socio-demographic reality of West Africa.

I don't think one can apportion blame to people who get infected with Ebola is many cases. It's contracted, we think, by eating bats as bush meat. Poorer societies tend to rely on the eating of bushmeat to survive if produced foods are hard to come by or are too expensive. Education about the dangers of Ebola is certainly lacking, but we can't blame someone for contracting a disease from someone who didn't even know they were infected. If you sat in front of me and presented symptoms that looked indistinguishable from a, say, a fever, then without the education and resources to do further testing I'd probably never know (until it was too late).

It's not enough to simply 'ban' a food source that communities rely on, otherwise instead of an ebola infection you'd have a famine. You're trading one issue with another. No, there are better ways, and it comes with socio-economic empowerment over the long-term. The only way you can counter cynicism over methods of infection control and the dangers that a virus like Ebola presents is through educating people who are most susceptible to it.

Is this an easy road? No. Will it be effective in the short term? Probably not. But if one thing is guaranteed to have an effect it's the 80% mortality rate that some areas of West Africa are facing with the current Ebola epidemic (which is what it is). Like it or not, aid is an important element of this process towards greater self-determination but I agree, in part, that a lot of aid is used ineffectively.

The issue with Ebola is that it crosses continents. To simply leave the various West African states to their own devices means we will see an outbreak in Europe and the US on a much greater scale that we already have. This relates to my point about unfounded cynicism over Ebola and its treatment/containing from folks in Western countries who want to decry it is an 'African' problem (and I'm pointing no fingers here). It's far from it. Hindering attempts to contain and ultimately one day cure it now will leave many more thousands in their graves tomorrow.

And I'd like to see some evidence backing up how the very miniscule (relative) amounts of aid given to African states is correlated to population growth before I comment on that. Populations boom for many reasons but one key element is poverty and destitution, which is rife in many parts of Central Africa. I would also like to posit that we take far, far more out of the African continent than we put in, financially speaking.

Ebola is a dangerous disease, but it isn't really a good choice for weaponization. To be a strong contender for that purpose it needs to be easily transmissible via air, water e.t.c. Also it needs to be more difficult to detect. In a western nation with good medical facilities, it would cause much less terror than suicide-bombings. But as we move forward in time, I am pretty sure that bio-warfare is the future of terrorism.