(January 4, 2015 at 1:14 am)Losty Wrote: Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. Catholics don't need to become Christian because they already are Christian.

I understand what you say and I write this only to tell you that I see this different.

My reason for this is that Catholics do not claim to be saved and are sinners but not saved-sinners. Ask the evangelist, he will tell you this.

Never an altar call is made in the Catholic church and charismatics are not welcome there. No holy rollers, and no shit like that is allowed in the Church.

To make this clear we have what is known as the Church Suffering for this, and we pray for those in the Church Militant. Beyond the Church Suffering we have the Church Triumphant and none of these are your so called self proclaimed Christians.

In short, you haven't got a clue.

@ Chili

Is English a second and unfamiliar language for you? Because that is the kindest explanation I can find for your writing style.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: No, in the old opposite sex society black and white were opposites and in our modern 'gender equal' society grey is forced to be the norm, as that is what gender equal means. It is from here our sex is trying to find a common identity in the many shades of grey, and they all have equal ground to be.

Are you male or female dear? It'll help with understand just what "our" sex is.

Oh, never mind. No one is being forced into bisexuality, intersexuality, and homosexuality, not to mention people bucking gender stereotypes are not being forced on anyone. People are simply being allowed to openly be what they are.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: In 'gender equal' anything goes and if fertility is a problem you can just pay the fee. If you are homosexuals you can adopt, and females can both use artificial ways to get pregnant. So I do not see a problem when friends have things in common in a love relationship. You can just get a different friend. The problem only exists if you do not agree with that.

Still don't get you. You sound in this paragraph as if you are all for loving relationships of all types and gender bending in general. But that does fit the rest of your posts.

I see no problem with homosexuals adopting or women using artificial insemination.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: The fact is that with the opposites removed in our gender equal society the boy-girl birth ratio has changed with more girl babies born than boys, which is especially true in upper middle class families.

Unsubstantiated hogwash. Find a citation for any of that.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Further, increasingly more homosexuals are born, and also more people who feel wrong about their sex identity and are troubled with stereo type imagery.

More homosexuals and transsexuals are coming out, that is certain. Whether there are more of them is much much less certain. Does it matter?

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: To say the least, the opposites between males and females is reduced, as that was the purpose of this plan that also would make people more gentle and kind, and less violent for sure.

Um? There's a plan to make people less violent by reducing sexual differences? Whose plan? Do you think the world is getting less violent? If so, why do you seem to think that that is a bad thing?

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Eternal life is known in our soul where time as such does not exist. This would be where intuition is home and therefore is non-rational as distinct from rational and irrational.

Nope. No soul. No knowledge of soul. Your intuition, such as it is, proves nothing.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Womanity typically is non-rational, or right brain orientation as opposed to left brain as rational. So now and increase of being rational will be at the cost of non-rational.

Women are neither less rational, nor more irrational then men. While we are on the subject, right brain/left brain is pretty much debunked. http://www.livescience.com/39373-left-br...-myth.html

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Just telling you that Christian is wherein humans are fully man, and if this is true the -ity does not belong and has no room to be, or it would also fit to man. That is just language.

But it's not well spoken comprehensible language or even a fair facsimile thereof.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: To note here that when Jesus became a Christian he was no longer a Jew. The same is true for Catholics, who likewise are no longer Catholic when they become a Christian, and therefore Christianity has no room to be.

Jesus did not become Christian, since to be a Christian is to be a follower of Christ. Whatever Jesus did, he did not follow himself. He was born and died a Jew. Catholics are also Christian. Just ask them.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: From this follows that it is not possible to be a saved-sinner as Catholic, and I add this only so you can understand my point of view on this (and therefore are not theists either and can rightfully not become an atheist).

WTF? If Catholics believe in a god of any kind, they are by definition theists. Atheists are simply people who do not believe in any god at all. Theists become atheists all the time. All a theist need do to become an atheist is lose their faith.

Chili Wrote:...since the Y chromosome is the fleeting one...

Oh crap, there and I thought I had made some sense out of Chili's stream of consciousness drivel.
http://Scientists long have suspected th...ppearance.

Quote:Scientists long have suspected that the sex chromosome that only males carry, the Y chromosome, is deteriorating.... Now, scientists have discovered that the Y chromosome is evolving at a rapid rate, resulting in a dramatic loss of genes that eventually could lead to the chromosome's complete disappearance.

See, fleeting in time, disappearing?

Nah, just more nonsense.

(January 4, 2015 at 1:28 am)Chili Wrote: I understand what you say and I write this only to tell you that I see this different.

My reason for this is that Catholics do not claim to be saved and are sinners but not saved-sinners. Ask the evangelist, he will tell you this.

Never an altar call is made in the Catholic church and charismatics are not welcome there. No holy rollers, and no shit like that is allowed in the Church.

To make this clear we have what is known as the Church Suffering for this, and we pray for those in the Church Militant. Beyond the Church Suffering we have the Church Triumphant and none of these are your so called self proclaimed Christians.

In short, you haven't got a clue.

None of which has crap to do with whether Catholics are Christians. You don't have to be an Evangelical Christian to be a Christian.

Why do you list your religion as Catholic?

(January 4, 2015 at 1:28 am)Chili Wrote:

(January 4, 2015 at 1:14 am)Losty Wrote: Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. Catholics don't need to become Christian because they already are Christian.

I understand what you say and I write this only to tell you that I see this different.

My reason for this is that Catholics do not claim to be saved and are sinners but not saved-sinners. Ask the evangelist, he will tell you this.

Never an altar call is made in the Catholic church and charismatics are not welcome there. No holy rollers, and no shit like that is allowed in the Church.

To make this clear we have what is known as the Church Suffering for this, and we pray for those in the Church Militant. Beyond the Church Suffering we have the Church Triumphant and none of these are your so called self proclaimed Christians.

In short, you haven't got a clue.

Bullshit. I was a member of the Catholic Church for several years. I was a Christian and considered myself saved. Are you saying Jesus doesn't save Catholics?

Ummmm, wtf happened to this thread?

(January 4, 2015 at 1:33 am)Jenny A Wrote: @ Chili

Is English a second and unfamiliar language for you? Because that is the kindest explanation I can find for your writing style.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: No, in the old opposite sex society black and white were opposites and in our modern 'gender equal' society grey is forced to be the norm, as that is what gender equal means. It is from here our sex is trying to find a common identity in the many shades of grey, and they all have equal ground to be.

Are you male or female dear? It'll help with understand just what "our" sex is.

Oh, never mind. No one is being forced into bisexuality, intersexuality, and homosexuality, not to mention people bucking gender stereotypes are not being forced on anyone. People are simply being allowed to openly be what they are.

Our sex is the physical identity and our gender identity is how we identify our self as sexual. And do you not understand the difference here that in our modern 'gender equal' society is allowed to be anything we want it to be, such as bisexual, homosexual, and many more shades of grey in between. And yes, all is good and that is just fine with me.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: In 'gender equal' anything goes and if fertility is a problem you can just pay the fee. If you are homosexuals you can adopt, and females can both use artificial ways to get pregnant. So I do not see a problem when friends have things in common in a love relationship. You can just get a different friend. The problem only exists if you do not agree with that.

Still don't get you. You sound in this paragraph as if you are all for loving relationships of all types and gender bending in general. But that does fit the rest of your posts.

I see no problem with homosexuals adopting or women using artificial insemination.

I fully agree with you. That is the rule of the land today, as different from our Muslim friends, lets say.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: The fact is that with the opposites removed in our gender equal society the boy-girl birth ratio has changed with more girl babies born than boys, which is especially true in upper middle class families.

Unsubstantiated hogwash. Find a citation for any of that.

Not my job to do. I just write for fun, but you may find this to be true in specific circles in our modern multi-cultural society.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Further, increasingly more homosexuals are born, and also more people who feel wrong about their sex identity and are troubled with stereo type imagery.

More homosexuals and transsexuals are coming out, that is certain. Whether there are more of them is much much less certain. Does it matter?

I see, OK "coming out" you say. And no, it does not matter as that is what our gender equal society is all about. So we should be happy with that instead.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: To say the least, the opposites between males and females is reduced, as that was the purpose of this plan that also would make people more gentle and kind, and less violent for sure.

Um? There's a plan to make people less violent by reducing sexual differences? Whose plan? Do you think the world is getting less violent? If so, why do you seem to think that that is a bad thing?

Sorry, statistic have shown that nearly all people in prisons are either masculine males or effeminate females. That was part of the argument made when it first was introduced. And true enough, psychologically neutered people are more gentle. That is a good thing, of course it is. I am very familiar with gay-bars and lezzy joints to know that this is true.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Eternal life is known in our soul where time as such does not exist. This would be where intuition is home and therefore is non-rational as distinct from rational and irrational.

Nope. No soul. No knowledge of soul. Your intuition, such as it is, proves nothing.

So how can the above be true if this is not true? It is orientation by design and that means less rational and more soul nature exposed.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Womanity typically is non-rational, or right brain orientation as opposed to left brain as rational. So now and increase of being rational will be at the cost of non-rational.

Women are neither less rational, nor more irrational then men. While we are on the subject, right brain/left brain is pretty much debunked. http://www.livescience.com/39373-left-br...-myth.html

Sorry, I did not place irrational opposite to non-rational. That is an irrational position you present.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: Just telling you that Christian is wherein humans are fully man, and if this is true the -ity does not belong and has no room to be, or it would also fit to man. That is just language.

But it's not well spoken comprehensible language or even a fair facsimile thereof.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: To note here that when Jesus became a Christian he was no longer a Jew. The same is true for Catholics, who likewise are no longer Catholic when they become a Christian, and therefore Christianity has no room to be.

Jesus did not become Christian, since to be a Christian is to be a follower of Christ. Whatever Jesus did, he did not follow himself. He was born and died a Jew. Catholics are also Christian. Just ask them.

Christ was never any part of the Gospels so how can we follow him?
Jesus was, and he said to follow him and drink of the cup he drank. And so where is that cup? or are they all just wannebe's maybe.

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(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: From this follows that it is not possible to be a saved-sinner as Catholic, and I add this only so you can understand my point of view on this (and therefore are not theists either and can rightfully not become an atheist).

WTF? If Catholics believe in a god of any kind, they are by definition theists. Atheists are simply people who do not believe in any god at all. Theists become atheists all the time. All a theist need do to become an atheist is lose their faith.

Faith is a gift of God and cannot be lost. But that is just me, I suppose, where only knowledge can set us free.

(January 4, 2015 at 2:40 am)bennyboy Wrote: Ummmm, wtf happened to this thread?

We gave Chili the stage. Crack open a beer and enjoy the show.

(January 4, 2015 at 2:40 am)bennyboy Wrote: Ummmm, wtf happened to this thread?

Took a turn to the surreal. The glue sniffing kind.

(January 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Chili Wrote: To note here that when Jesus became a Christian he was no longer a Jew.

When Jesus Christ became a Christian?

When Jesus CHRIST became a Christian

When Jesus CHRIST became a CHRISTIAN

JESUS CHRIST

CHRIST

CHRIST

CHRIST

became a CHRISTian?!