(February 10, 2015 at 6:17 am)Riketto Wrote: The intellect is something flexible and open to learning [...] the intellect will be able to carry this new amount of knowledge.

You are the counter example to your own claims.

People seem to confuse being open minded with believing anything.

(February 10, 2015 at 6:17 am)Riketto Wrote: Has ever the board of scientists practice intuitional science?
Not that i know, so how the hell can they understand what is outside their competence?

Coming from the guy who has still to tell me what his "intuitional science" says is inside the green box, this is rich beyond the dreams of avarice indeed.

I can practice intuitional science. It's dead easy. Let's see...

Everyone has a metaphysical sphere floating just to their left at all times. If it wasn't there, then the metaphysical spiritual dragon would instantly kill the person.

I just "saw" all of that.

(February 11, 2015 at 3:32 am)robvalue Wrote: I can practice intuitional science. It's dead easy. Let's see...

Everyone has a metaphysical sphere floating just to their left at all times. If it wasn't there, then the metaphysical spiritual dragon would instantly kill the person.

I just "saw" all of that.

i give mine snickers it doesn't want to kill me its just grumpy when its hungry.

(February 10, 2015 at 3:36 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(February 10, 2015 at 6:17 am)Riketto Wrote: Has ever the board of scientists practice intuitional science?
Not that i know, so how the hell can they understand what is outside their competence?

Coming from the guy who has still to tell me what his "intuitional science" says is inside the green box, this is rich beyond the dreams of avarice indeed.

One day you say that you are here because you as a moderator or whatever you are have to go through this shit.
The next day you feel the need to express your thoughts in this thread so to me it seem all a bit confusing what you really want.
Anyway coming back to the magic box i already explained in the past what i think about.
Intuitional science is for expanding our consciousness for the purpose to reach the goal of life which is outside this material-physical dimension.
It is quite possible to expand our mind also with the purpose to be smart and clever in this physical dimension and that is exactly what the fakirs are doing.
I already shown what some people are doing during some Hindus festivals.
They can put a knife through their skin and feel no pain and when the metal is removed the hole close leaving no scars or little scar.
It is also possible to do a lot of other things like to see through and inside a box.
However there is a problem with doing all these things.
If done with the purpose that by believing in God everything is possible then there want be any consequences but if it is done with the purpose to gain something then it will backfire.
You loose what you gain with so much hard work.
It can be a dangerous exercise so it is much better to avoid it that is why people who are serious to reach the goal of life as soon as possible avoid these things like you would avoid to get infected with ebola so to speak.
I don't know what is inside the box and i am not interested into knowing.

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(February 10, 2015 at 1:17 pm)Surgenator Wrote:

(February 10, 2015 at 6:17 am)Riketto Wrote: The intellect is something flexible and open to learning [...] the intellect will be able to carry this new amount of knowledge.

You are the counter example to your own claims.

Please Mister Surgen can you explain to little Rik where the contradiction is?

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(February 10, 2015 at 12:33 am)wiploc Wrote:

(November 19, 2014 at 9:09 am)Riketto Wrote: 1) Would you say.........oh, well there was no evidence that you existed that is why i never believe that you exist.
2) I was wrong in not looking at all options.
3) I never thought that by refusing to consider that you exist i could not expect that you manifest in my consciousness.

Certainly not #3, because I can't make it scan. After multiple readings, I still find it opaque. So I wouldn't say that, because I try to be lucid.

Not #2, because I haven't done anything wrong.

So #1 is closest. But there'd be no reason to talk that way. If you meet a new person that you've never heard of, maybe Jane Smith from Saratoga, you say something like, "Hello, I'm George, I like soccer, stuffed pork chops, and telling terrible jokes." I have never greeted anyone by saying, "I didn't believe in you because I didn't know you existed."

I know that the standard Christian god doesn't exist, so this god wouldn't be him. She'd be someone else, someone I haven't heard of, someone I'd be curious about. I'd be friendly and inquisitive.

Next to your avatar you say..........gods do not exist ........so you already make up your mind whether it (they) exist or not.
On what bases you make up your mind?
Did you die before and you saw no God-s?
Did anybody tell you so?
Is your so called evidence based on the fact that you never saw God so God must not exist?
You come down with a statement which so far it is not backed with evidence.
If God ever exist then i guess that when you will face him he wan't be very happy to see you.
On the other hand if he doesn't exist then you will be ok but that it is your decision so good luck.

(February 10, 2015 at 7:32 am)whateverist Wrote:

(February 10, 2015 at 6:17 am)Riketto Wrote: Has ever the board of scientists practice intuitional science?
Not that i know, so how the hell can they understand what is outside their competence?

I didn't mean real scientists. I meant intuitional science, your kind. Hey wait a minute. Is intuitional science really a thing or did you just make that up? If they do exist, do they at least engage in peer review to keep standards up?

According to yoga philosophy intuitional science was given 7000 years ago by Lord Shiva.
Don't ask me for evidence that Lord Shiva ever existed.
After so long it is very hard to get any evidence even if all over the Indian subcontinent there is enough history that relate to his existence.
So you may ask......why then you follow something that may not be the real thing that you are talking about.
Why?
Because it works and that is a very good reason.
There is also plenty of peer review but this review it is coming from anyone who practice this science.
Anybody practicing this science seriously agree with anyone else that also practice it seriously.
There are also a lot of people that started this practice that after a short time gave it up.
These people may well tell you that it doesn't work but again you will find a lot of people that give up their studies before they reach the degree so it is all relative to the way the people take the thing seriously or not.

(February 12, 2015 at 10:40 am)Riketto Wrote: Don't ask me for evidence that Lord Shiva ever existed.

You..do know how things work around here, right?

(February 10, 2015 at 8:32 am)Tonus Wrote:

(February 10, 2015 at 6:17 am)Riketto Wrote: The consciousness is infinite but it is in a seed (pineal gland).

Again, this is nonsense. You have nothing that tells you that consciousness is infinite. And saying that "it is in a seed (pineal gland)" is just as useful as saying that "it's red with blue stripes (and also invisible)." If you want to venture into "intuitional science" then be aware that we can both play that game and take this thread to it's only possible conclusion. Ready?

You may have noticed that in any form of life there is a way to reproduce.
It is the seed of life.
At the same time you may well be stuck into your believe that the seed of life only apply physically.
As a father you may give life to a son but it never come into your mind that the seed of life may well apply to ourselves as spiritual beings.
Of course not otherwise you wouldn't be atheist but again it is only by making the real seed of life able to sprout the you may understand this point.
In other words you discounted the fact that the seed of life is infinite well before you try to give it an opportunity to make it sprout.
It is very obvious that so far you can't get it.

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(February 12, 2015 at 10:42 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(February 12, 2015 at 10:40 am)Riketto Wrote: Don't ask me for evidence that Lord Shiva ever existed.

You..do know how things work around here, right?

Ok, let me say if i understand what you are saying.
You say that before i use my car or anything else i should know who invented these items or if these inventors ever existed otherwise i shouldn't use them even if these items make my life easier and they are working very well?
Is this what you are saying?

Thanks mate, now i can go to sleep with a laugh in my face.

Well..you can't sleep if you're laughing..but anyway...

You could easily say "i don't know where 'intuinitional science' came from", and that would be fine, as it's not a claim. But you're making a claim that it was 'given' by 'Lord Shiva'. A claim requires evidence.