(March 10, 2015 at 8:09 am)Riketto Wrote:

(March 9, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Surgenator Wrote: And your answers were bullshit. So I asked you again for a better answers.

Congratulation Surgen.
Now that you stop for a moment to be a liar and admit that after all i DID answer your question we can procced ahead with your new query.

You want to count bullshit answers. I'll give you a bullshit answer to your mind vs consciousness question. 'They are different like a potato is different from a yam.' There. I gave you an answer and we can now move on to other topics.

Quote:Why your hybrid bullshit can not be real?
Because for something to exist there got to be a mind whether this mind is manifested or latent and dormant like in the matter.
Even a robot to exist and do something there got to be a mind that program this robot to do specific things.
In this case there would be a mind inside an other mind which doesn't make any sense.
A mind inserted in a human being which is already completed with his own mind.
That is absurd Surgen.
Next time try something that at least make a little be of sense.

You fail. It didn't started out as a robot but became a hybrid later. So all this mind origin business assumes it didn't start with one. It had a mind to start with. Try again.

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Quote:Why do I need to look up words for you? Use a dictionary.

I guess it is very tough to admit that you haven't got the slightest clue about the subject.
Isn't it surgen?

Projection is a bitch. But I gave your answer above.

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Quote:Ad homenium attacks, my favorite.

How would you call someone who lie and doesn't admit that he doesn't know something?

You have to prove that I lied. But I have a question for you, how do you deal with someone who doesn't understand logic?

I stopped taking your claims seriously a long time ago. I am conducting an experiment on different methods effectiveness on people who can't understand logic.

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Quote:You have sick and weird fantasies.

Loose yourself up surgen and admit that you refuse to open your mind to reason.
It would make everything so much easier.

See above.

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Quote: You the intellectual superior!

Actually the intellect is not my best tool to come up with something that make sense.
It is that something behind the intellect that is the best tool.

(March 10, 2015 at 11:23 am)rasetsu Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 8:09 am)Riketto Wrote: Any particular reason why you twist my words?

Do you feel I was misrepresenting you? You claimed that the top always giving birth to the bottom was the way nature worked. Yet you also claimed that you believe the Darwinian theory of evolution. This seemed to be in conflict. If you feel something has been made crooked, then straighten it.

I thought that as a yogini you would have a little bit of knowledge about how the system according yoga works.
Let me explain considering that you are a fake yogini and then we come to Mr. Darwin.
In yoga God turn his consciousness into something less pure and perfect in order to create the universe with so many things inside.
Step by step he create the 5 fundamental factors (space, air, light, water and matter) so even the matter is part of of consciousness and therefore it has all the qualifications to be part of God but at the same time this consciousness is in a latent or dormant stage.
Here so far we have seen a DE-evolution as the pure consciousness is turned into a latent or dormant consciousness unable to be aware of his real status or aware of realizing who really is.
The latent or dormant stage however doesn't last for ever and here we enter in the stage of evolution.
So De-evolution is the stage in which the pure consciousness loose his purity or his perfect equilibrium and become crude or almost devoid of consciousness and EVOLUTION is the stage in which slowly slowly it regain his full consciousness.
From matter to vegetable life to animal life to human life and back to God consciousness.
Suppose you think about something.
After a while or sometime you stop thinking about that particular thing and regain your normal mental status.
A human does this in a smaller scale but God being God does in a bigger scale creating the universe in this manner.
When Mr. Darwin observe the evolution of animals into something more evolved he only understand that small evolution is turned into big evolution so from here you may wrongly think that the small create the big but in reality it happen that the small is turned into big because the process of devolution give way to the process of evolution in order to regain his original status.
Evolution can not go without a previous process of devolution so what really happen is that the big is turned into small and this small is again turned into big so it is always the big that create the small not the other way around.
Darwin only look at one side of the coin.
Nothing wrong with his analysis that is why i said that he notice evolution by observing animals and other things but again his analysis is confined to the process of evolution and nothing else.
Capish?

(March 10, 2015 at 8:09 am)Riketto Wrote: Actually the intellect is not my best tool to come up with something that make sense.

You got that right.

(March 10, 2015 at 3:50 pm)Surgenator Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 8:09 am)Riketto Wrote: Congratulation Surgen.
Now that you stop for a moment to be a liar and admit that after all i DID answer your question we can procced ahead with your new query.

You want to count bullshit answers. I'll give you a bullshit answer to your mind vs consciousness question. 'They are different like a potato is different from a yam.' There. I gave you an answer and we can now move on to other topics.

Quote:Why your hybrid bullshit can not be real?
Because for something to exist there got to be a mind whether this mind is manifested or latent and dormant like in the matter.
Even a robot to exist and do something there got to be a mind that program this robot to do specific things.
In this case there would be a mind inside an other mind which doesn't make any sense.
A mind inserted in a human being which is already completed with his own mind.
That is absurd Surgen.
Next time try something that at least make a little be of sense.

You fail. It didn't started out as a robot but became a hybrid later. So all this mind origin business assumes it didn't start with one. It had a mind to start with. Try again.

Quote:I guess it is very tough to admit that you haven't got the slightest clue about the subject.
Isn't it surgen?

Projection is a bitch. But I gave your answer above.

Quote:How would you call someone who lie and doesn't admit that he doesn't know something?

You have to prove that I lied. But I have a question for you, how do you deal with someone who doesn't understand logic?

I stopped taking your claims seriously a long time ago. I am conducting an experiment on different methods effectiveness on people who can't understand logic.

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Loose yourself up surgen and admit that you refuse to open your mind to reason.
It would make everything so much easier.

See above.

Quote:Actually the intellect is not my best tool to come up with something that make sense.
It is that something behind the intellect that is the best tool.

Your mountain o'crap get bigger and bigger.
You put a hybrid mountain o'crap next to a robot mountain o'crap and then you add a mountain o'bullshit in between.
It remind me how they do the lasagne.
One layer of sauce, one layer of pasta (sort of) then one layer of balsciamella then one layer of pasta to top off with one more layer of sauce until the container is full.
The only difference between lasagne and you layer of bullshit is that lasagne are good while your layer of bullshit is bad.
Do you follow me surgen?

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(March 11, 2015 at 10:42 am)Irrational Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 8:09 am)Riketto Wrote: Actually the intellect is not my best tool to come up with something that make sense.

You got that right.

Your name sound absolutely perfect.

(March 11, 2015 at 10:52 am)Riketto Wrote: Your mountain o'crap get bigger and bigger.
You put a hybrid mountain o'crap next to a robot mountain o'crap and then you add a mountain o'bullshit in between.
It remind me how they do the lasagne.
One layer of sauce, one layer of pasta (sort of) then one layer of balsciamella then one layer of pasta to top off with one more layer of sauce until the container is full.
The only difference between lasagne and you layer of bullshit is that lasagne are good while your layer of bullshit is bad.
Do you follow me surgen?

Even your insults are rambling, incoherent, and senseless.

(March 11, 2015 at 10:52 am)Riketto Wrote:

(March 11, 2015 at 10:42 am)Irrational Wrote: You got that right.

Your name sound absolutely perfect.

Better mine than yours. Yours sounds like a name I'd give to my next cute pet dog.

(March 11, 2015 at 10:52 am)Riketto Wrote:

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(March 10, 2015 at 3:50 pm)Surgenator Wrote: You want to count bullshit answers. I'll give you a bullshit answer to your mind vs consciousness question. 'They are different like a potato is different from a yam.' There. I gave you an answer and we can now move on to other topics.

You fail. It didn't started out as a robot but became a hybrid later. So all this mind origin business assumes it didn't start with one. It had a mind to start with. Try again.

Projection is a bitch. But I gave your answer above.

You have to prove that I lied. But I have a question for you, how do you deal with someone who doesn't understand logic?

I stopped taking your claims seriously a long time ago. I am conducting an experiment on different methods effectiveness on people who can't understand logic.

See above.

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Your mountain o'crap get bigger and bigger.
You put a hybrid mountain o'crap next to a robot mountain o'crap and then you add a mountain o'bullshit in between.

And do I see a refutation of my counter, NO. I wonder why. Pink-invisible-dinosaur-robot-hybrid 1, Ricky 0.

Quote:Do you follow me surgen?

No one follows your inane analogies.

(March 11, 2015 at 10:37 am)Riketto Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 11:23 am)rasetsu Wrote: Do you feel I was misrepresenting you? You claimed that the top always giving birth to the bottom was the way nature worked. Yet you also claimed that you believe the Darwinian theory of evolution. This seemed to be in conflict. If you feel something has been made crooked, then straighten it.

I thought that as a yogini you would have a little bit of knowledge about how the system according yoga works.
Let me explain considering that you are a fake yogini and then we come to Mr. Darwin.
In yoga God turn his consciousness into something less pure and perfect in order to create the universe with so many things inside.
Step by step he create the 5 fundamental factors (space, air, light, water and matter) so even the matter is part of of consciousness and therefore it has all the qualifications to be part of God but at the same time this consciousness is in a latent or dormant stage.
Here so far we have seen a DE-evolution as the pure consciousness is turned into a latent or dormant consciousness unable to be aware of his real status or aware of realizing who really is.
The latent or dormant stage however doesn't last for ever and here we enter in the stage of evolution.
So De-evolution is the stage in which the pure consciousness loose his purity or his perfect equilibrium and become crude or almost devoid of consciousness and EVOLUTION is the stage in which slowly slowly it regain his full consciousness.
From matter to vegetable life to animal life to human life and back to God consciousness.
Suppose you think about something.
After a while or sometime you stop thinking about that particular thing and regain your normal mental status.
A human does this in a smaller scale but God being God does in a bigger scale creating the universe in this manner.
When Mr. Darwin observe the evolution of animals into something more evolved he only understand that small evolution is turned into big evolution so from here you may wrongly think that the small create the big but in reality it happen that the small is turned into big because the process of devolution give way to the process of evolution in order to regain his original status.
Evolution can not go without a previous process of devolution so what really happen is that the big is turned into small and this small is again turned into big so it is always the big that create the small not the other way around.
Darwin only look at one side of the coin.
Nothing wrong with his analysis that is why i said that he notice evolution by observing animals and other things but again his analysis is confined to the process of evolution and nothing else.
Capish?

Thank you for explaining your understanding to me.

(March 11, 2015 at 11:03 am)Irrational Wrote:

(March 11, 2015 at 10:52 am)Riketto Wrote: Your name sound absolutely perfect.

Better mine than yours. Yours sounds like a name I'd give to my next cute pet dog.

It seem strange but some dogs are more intelligent than some humans.
Years ago i had a collie dog.
When he was young i teach him so many things.
He learned so well that people wonder whether he had a human brain or not.
I am sure that now he must have reborn as a human.
Anyway irra better be careful to give your new dog a name like mine.
He can get smarter than you in any way with a similar name.

What a very apt story for this thread, Rick.