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If God was Schrodinger's Cat
#31
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
Bravo
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#32
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
Ok, prepare to get your mind blown:

What if WE are that cat, the universe is the box, and God doesn't dare to look because as long as He doesn't, part of us is still alive!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#33
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
The answer is simple: The timeless, unchanging Cat would remain dead for three days and then be found alive, resuming his position at the right hand of himself being a Cathead who is three in one and one in three, crowned both wholly sacred cat and wholly profane rodent forever in his little box. Amen.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#34
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
(March 21, 2015 at 9:32 pm)daver49 Wrote: --don't take this game to seriously...it is just for fun.

Said every priest right before placing his bishop in the child's shit box.
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#35
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
(March 21, 2015 at 8:48 pm)daver49 Wrote: If God was Schroedinger's cat, would God be alive or dead?
I would assume dead when the beating on the walls of the box stopped.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#36
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
(March 22, 2015 at 12:34 am)Drich Wrote:
(March 21, 2015 at 10:01 pm)daver49 Wrote:

Isn't 'the box' a metaphor for conventional thought and or rules? Your thought project simply trades the 'religious box' for a box of your own choosing. How then if you are having us trade one box for another is this 'out of box' thinking?
Thinking

If you think so. (The box as a metaphor). I am not having you trade one box for another. You are doing it yourself! Stop it, what if the store clerk sees you?

(March 22, 2015 at 1:02 am)Jenny A Wrote: The thing is regardless of whether Schrodinger's cat is alive or dead, the universe is pretty much the same. The only point being that without opening the box, there is no certainty about the cat's death or survival because unlike Newtonian physics quantum mechanics deals in probability. If whether god existed or not, or is alive or not matters about as much as the cat, then god is as irrelevant as the existence of a single cat. In which case god is of no interest, the only thing of interest would be that we couldn't know for certain if god existed. Also, there is no box to open to determine the existence of god. Finally, Schrodinger at least knew the probability of the cat being alive or dead, but we have no way of calculating the probability of god. So, I'm confused.
What does Schrodinger's thought experiment (mercifully no real cat was ever involved) have to do with god?

As I have said many times in this thread...God is the name of the cat! (What if God was Schrodinger's Cat?) And she/he is a cool cat! Schrodinger loves that cat to death!

My thought experiment illustrates that words and concepts can be understood/misunderstood in many different ways...even though the original words maintain their integrity in terms of sentence order, spelling,punctuation, etc. One of the primary forces at work in people's "understanding" is the simple act of dualistic (thus judging) thought. As long as we think, we are in the box and will continually compare/contrast, weigh, evaluate...not only ideas, but also themselves and others. It is ok to use thought to evaluate ideas, but it gets very messy when we use thought to evaluate people's "worthiness," "goodness," and "value." I am "thinking"...how should I judge this Jenny A? Is she friend or foe, smart or not, hot or snot? Then, something is said that pushes some emotional or conceptual button that lets the cat out of the box and it starts peeing on the carpet. Bad Kitty!

(March 22, 2015 at 10:33 am)IATIA Wrote:
(March 21, 2015 at 8:48 pm)daver49 Wrote: If God was Schroedinger's cat, would God be alive or dead?
I would assume dead when the beating on the walls of the box stopped.

Schrodinger used a soundproof box so it wouldn't keep him awake at night.
Then again, maybe the cat got tired from all the pounding and just went to sleep. Or, yes, the cat has entered that litter box in the sky.

(March 22, 2015 at 4:25 am)Alex K Wrote: Ok, prepare to get your mind blown:

What if WE are that cat, the universe is the box, and God doesn't dare to look because as long as He doesn't, part of us is still alive!

Start your own thread Alex!

(March 22, 2015 at 5:30 am)Nestor Wrote: The answer is simple: The timeless, unchanging Cat would remain dead for three days and then be found alive, resuming his position at the right hand of himself being a Cathead who is three in one and one in three, crowned both wholly sacred cat and wholly profane rodent forever in his little box. Amen.

Does Schrodinger know these amazing characteristics about his cat? If he did, he wouldn't have put the cat in the box in the first place...the result being known beforehand (the cat can't die, therefore why fuss with this stupid box and poison and radioactivity?) He would have had to come up with a thought experiment outside the box!

(March 22, 2015 at 5:43 am)Cato Wrote:
(March 21, 2015 at 9:32 pm)daver49 Wrote: --don't take this game to seriously...it is just for fun.

Said every priest right before placing his bishop in the child's shit box.

Yes! That comment is funny and not funny at the same time. Dual meanings somehow reconciled. How appropriate to come from you, Cato, guardian of purgatory in Dante's "Divine Comedy."
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#37
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
Good point, except, all this illustrates is that "God" is an individual's projected fabrication of their own idea of what a God would be. If there were such a thing, none of us could accurately define it's true nature because the very act of tryinh to put it into a box is what makes it a human fabrication...I don't know, so I'll continue being honest until I do. Wink
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#38
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
(March 22, 2015 at 2:27 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Good point, except, all this illustrates is that "God" is an individual's projected fabrication of their own idea of what a God would be. If there were such a thing, none of us could accurately define it's true nature because the very act of tryinh to put it into a box is what makes it a human fabrication...I don't know, so I'll continue being honest until I do. Wink

I hear 4 shits bid from the man in the upper corner! Do I hear 5? (This is going to be a profitable thread).
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#39
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
I tried to name my cat Schrodinger, but when I named it, it changed said name to Banana Obviously, naming my cat shroedinger affected it's true name.

Or whatever.
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#40
RE: If God was Schrodinger's Cat
(March 22, 2015 at 5:12 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I tried to name my cat Schrodinger, but when I named it, it changed said name to Banana Obviously, naming my cat shroedinger affected it's true name.

Or whatever.

Did you give him the due cacti?
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