(July 4, 2015 at 6:23 pm)doomed Wrote: Myself. I refuse to become dependable on anything else or I'll just end up having the bad effects of "abstinence".

Be careful, some people who have acted as if they were their own god tend to have trouble in society. Still, I like your answer, you could do worse.

(July 4, 2015 at 6:27 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(July 4, 2015 at 6:23 pm)doomed Wrote: Myself. I refuse to become dependable on anything else or I'll just end up having the bad effects of "abstinence".

Be careful, some people who have acted as if they were their own god tend to have trouble in society. Still, I like your answer, you could do worse.

They were their own gods in what kind of way? When I say I'm my own god, I'm saying that I'm the thing(or should I say, person) that I most worry about, but I'm smart enough to know what might end up by giving me bad outcomes.

(July 4, 2015 at 6:35 pm)doomed Wrote:

(July 4, 2015 at 6:27 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Be careful, some people who have acted as if they were their own god tend to have trouble in society. Still, I like your answer, you could do worse.

They were their own gods in what kind of way? When I say I'm my own god, I'm saying that I'm the thing(or should I say, person) that I most worry about, but I'm smart enough to know what might end up by giving me bad outcomes.

They were the person they most cared about to the exclusion of everything else (i.e. what was best for them was by default best for all). Sounds like you're not that person.

Sleep

(July 4, 2015 at 7:15 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(July 4, 2015 at 6:35 pm)doomed Wrote: They were their own gods in what kind of way? When I say I'm my own god, I'm saying that I'm the thing(or should I say, person) that I most worry about, but I'm smart enough to know what might end up by giving me bad outcomes.

They were the person they most cared about to the exclusion of everything else (i.e. what was best for them was by default best for all). Sounds like you're not that person.

I guess so. I wouldn't do anything that led me to prison. Caring about myself would be enough for me not to do so as well as being sociable with other people and obeying the rules. It's strange that the people you know ended up in prison. They probably don't apply the same meaning I do to the "I'm my own god" phrase.

Politics, ambition, and service.

You need all three to make a difference. Ambition and service without politics can do immense good, but won't result in structural change. Politics without ambition leads to nothing. Politics and ambition without service leads to greed. I think it's easy to determine the other conclusions.