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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 12, 2010 at 6:22 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: You tell me how A=A should be applied to reality knowing that a particle can be at two plces at the same time. If it cannot be applied to the things in... |
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June 12, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 12, 2010 at 4:11 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: A particle cannot pass through both slits at once, still that's what experiment tells us. What evidence do you need to falsify A=A if this is not enoug... |
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June 12, 2010 at 4:59 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 12, 2010 at 2:09 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: There is no rule that they should, you are just asserting that.
Some cross checking: If A=A is true for an electron in this universe in the double sli... |
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June 12, 2010 at 3:35 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 11, 2010 at 7:14 pm)Caecilian Wrote: I really like that. Its an elegant argument, and easy for a non-specialist like myself to follow. Good stuff. :clap:Thanks...
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Philosophy
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June 12, 2010 at 11:25 am |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| Here is an attempt, let's say that the set (N) is the collection of all the universes, whether logical or illogical.
N = {X, Y, Z, ...}
The elements (X), (Y) and (Z) are just existent real universes.
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Philosophy
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June 11, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| I encounter only one problem,
a) We exist in our universe, and we're thinking about the possibility of other universes with possibly different axioms.
b) If so, how can we use our axioms (ex. a=a) fo... |
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Philosophy
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June 10, 2010 at 8:20 am |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 9, 2010 at 7:58 pm)Caecilian Wrote: There is no real reason at all to think that the axioms that apply in our universe will necessarily apply in other universes. (June 9, 2010 at 7:58 pm)Caeci... |
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Philosophy
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June 9, 2010 at 9:45 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 9, 2010 at 7:01 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: A clock is an abstraction of time by humans, not time itsel. Presenting it in a periodic cycle is a handy way to sync our practical daily use time to th... |
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Philosophy
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June 9, 2010 at 7:50 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 9, 2010 at 6:06 pm)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote: modular math is applicable in all universes for that matter. If modular math is applicable in all universes, then all topics of math should be so s... |
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Philosophy
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June 9, 2010 at 7:12 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 9, 2010 at 5:02 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: Secondly you should realize that we can construct new logical frameworks that are not compatible with the one we have by starting from other axioma or b... |
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Philosophy
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June 9, 2010 at 5:57 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 8, 2010 at 1:02 am)Saerules Wrote: To say that all universes are logical means that any universe, even the ones you don't enter, must follow some internal logic. How do you manage to arrive at... |
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Philosophy
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June 9, 2010 at 3:51 pm |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 8, 2010 at 1:02 am)Saerules Wrote: So there is no necessary relation between arithmetic and physical reality. There is no rule that says things in other universes should be countable at all.Fo... |
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Philosophy
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June 9, 2010 at 3:37 pm |
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Thread: What if we're all wrong though?
Post: RE: What if we're all wrong though?
| (June 9, 2010 at 7:51 am)tackattack Wrote: @ Ramsin.. uhhmm .. I don't know what that was.What I've simply meant is that if there is no room for pleasure so there is no room for pain.
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Ramsin.Kh |
Atheism
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June 9, 2010 at 9:45 am |
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Thread: What if we're all wrong though?
Post: RE: What if we're all wrong though?
| To discuss about the possibility of suffering in "hell" is totally pointless, because:
a) If your current position is in hell, then you never experience satisfaction/pleasure and comfort, and you're s... |
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Atheism
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June 9, 2010 at 7:27 am |
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Thread: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
Post: RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
| (June 8, 2010 at 1:02 am)Saerules Wrote: I see no reason to make the assumption that all universes are logical. :sleepy: In some universe... perhaps a thing that is x is also a thing that is y, b, Q... |
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Philosophy
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June 8, 2010 at 8:07 pm |
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Thread: What Happens When God is Nature?
Post: RE: What Happens When God is Nature?
| (June 8, 2010 at 6:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Are you a Christian Ramsin.Kh?No, Why? |
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Philosophy
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June 8, 2010 at 6:40 pm |
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Thread: What Happens When God is Nature?
Post: RE: What Happens When God is Nature?
| Read below, (Note: by "Nature" I mean everything real that exists):
If God is Nature...
a) then God loses its theological indefinite definition.
b) it's meaningless to use the word "God" since it r... |
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Philosophy
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June 8, 2010 at 6:35 pm |
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Thread: What can science prove?
Post: RE: What can science prove?
| It depends on what part of science. I mean, mathematics is a formal science which attempts to purely prove a mathematical statement or hypothesis by previous proved theorems or self-evident axioms.
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General Science
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June 8, 2010 at 10:17 am |
