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RE: Objections: The Gathering
July 20, 2015 at 5:01 pm
How did Judas die? How many people were crucified with Jesus? So went to the tomb? Is God a god of peace or war? Should a son be punished for his fathers sins?
None of those questions have consistent answers in the bible.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Objections: The Gathering
July 20, 2015 at 5:43 pm
There is no objective evidence for the existence of any god and rational people do not believe things which cannot be objectively demonstrated. Religious fail once again.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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RE: Objections: The Gathering
July 20, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Did you know that Roman emperor could proclaim previous dead people as gods?
Does that make them gods? no
Does that make people accept them as gods? yes.
Oh... objection #"I don't know": if people have made up all the gods that have ever been worshiped, then why would yours be the special one that's real?
Take it home, Tim:
"Fuck me Sam, what are the odds
That of history's endless parade of gods
That the God you just happened to be taught to believe in
Is the actual God and he digs on healing,
But not the AIDS-ridden African nations
Nor the victims of the plague, nor the flood-addled Asians,
But healthy, privately-insured Australians
With common and curable lens degeneration"
Other: If humanity evolved and, in that process, created all kinds of abstract concepts, why couldn't the concept of a god have just been another human creation?
Or else: If there is an actual god, and it wants us humans to acknowledge its existence, then why is belief required? Why must we believe what we are told about that god? Why is what we are told about that god geographically dependent? Why is it that this geographical dependency accompany different tribal/societal influences? Why are the rules supposedly given by the god reflections of the societies where the god concept is taught?
Damn, I'm on a roll!
Other: Why don't followers of any particular religion acknowledge the gods followed by the people from other religions?
Other: Why don't followers of a particular religion ever acknowledge the full history behind their own mythology?
Other: Why are psychological events always discarded as the origin of a myth or part of a myth?
Other: Why can't believers ever realize their own bias? (this one works for most people, concerning anything they're biased to)
