Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
To be fair to ATT, I don't think that is his argument, but instead he's outlining the reasons why banning guns will be difficult.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
Quote:Guns do change what people are prepared to do.
Again, gl explaining how.
Quote:This is the same bullshit argument as when people try to make out like you could just as easily run someone over with a car or stab them to death. It's piss poor.
Nothing I've argued, and in no way relevant to anything I said. Hey, carry on criticizing some other persons argument about some other issue which you think is piss poor.
Quote:I know for a fact that I've had some dark times in my life too, and I can tell you right now if my parents had a gun in the household like they likely would if we were a yankee family, I don't know if I'd still be here typing this today.
You know for a fact...that you don't know?
Quote:Bottom line is guns make shit a hell of a lot easier. If I were to kill myself, I'd 100% choose a gun to do it. Only thing stopping me from jumping off a bridge already or smashing my car into oncoming traffic is that I'm a coward. A gun would eliminate a lot of that doubt and fear. It would take a lot less to pull a trigger than to slit my wrists.
Yeah, they absolutely make it easier to do whatever it was you were already capable of doing -if- that thing involves a gun. I swear to christ..it seems like you think that guns are the one ring to rule them all.....like a pistol in my pocket for long enough will turn me into a troll.....
Quote:I'm sure it's the same for a lot of people who consider suicide.
But likewise for those twisted fucks who have intentions of killing others. Yeah, a gun absolutely makes it easier. You're way more capable with a gun than without. You're talking absolute shit here Rhythm.
Equivocating on the word capable.
Look, man, I don't think it's a good idea for a suicidal person to have access to a gun either, but that access, that -gun- isn't why it;s a bad idea..it;s what they are -already capable of doing- that makes it a bad idea. If they aren;t capable of committing suicide...if it's just not in them....I wouldn't expect them to commit suicide with that gun...or anything else. If they are, I'd take the laces out of their shoes.
Quote:@Wyrd, probably not true, but close enough in effect as to be so. He might not find a gun in the first 4, he might find 10 in the 5th.
Just this morning, a few hours ago, someone stole a cop's gun. So if a person really wants a gun he can easily steal one from the nearest cop.
(August 27, 2015 at 7:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I second the strangeness on the ease of purchasing a gun vs adopting a dog. I got mine from the pound...not even a reputable place - and it took longer than it's ever taken to walk off with a gun. Irritating -and- disturbing.
And just consider how alien that looks to Europeans. You've got a few freedoms we don't have in our vast majority, but in general, yours is an overregulated society in general. But obtaining a gun is a piece of cake.
(August 26, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: So, maybe the lesson to be learned is this: Don't piss people off because they might be crazy enough to blow you away for no reason whatsover or because you did them a real wrong. And sometimes bad shit happens to good people, like it did to the woman who got shot just because she was there.
Here's hoping that we can make it through the day in one piece. If we do then it was a very good day indeed.
Quote:Victim blame much?
Since most people are killed by people they know it's obvious that the killers blame the victims.
(August 26, 2015 at 6:55 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Brits are sheep who are OK with being oppressed.
Quote:I must be an above average American if I can remember several peasant uprisings to deal with assholes in power....in Britain.
Be sure to let us know when those British sheep get a constitution from those assholes in power in England. The peasants must have been upset about kidney pies.
(August 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Speaking of gun laws, do you know when the first gun control law was passed in America?
Kentucky got the ball rolling in 1813 when it passed a law against carrying concealed guns. That led to the battle to make the Second Amendment an individual right.
And we all know about the western movies where the local sheriff goes all bad-ass on any cowboy who dares wear a gun in his town. Hollywood must have made 30,000 movies about that one topic and they were always in favor of gun control.
So everyone has been subjected to a lifetime of gun control propaganda. It's part of American culture. People are so brainwashed one way or another that it's almost impossible for anyone to change his mind about the topic. You either love gun control or you hate it. And since it has been going on for 200 years it's doubtful if anyone will give in soon.
So the question should be something along the lines of is it ever OK to kill someone who did you wrong? People are going to do it anyway by any means available.
(August 27, 2015 at 8:05 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Be sure to let us know when those British sheep get a constitution from those assholes in power in England. The peasants must have been upset about kidney pies.
When have your guns stepped in to stop the assholes in power in America?
August 27, 2015 at 8:11 pm (This post was last modified: August 27, 2015 at 8:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Not as easy as you make it sound Wyrd...check Mins "Fucking Cops" thread for details.
You're flirting with a myth of american gun ownership...particularly that everyone's packing. We're not. There are more guns (that we know of) in the US than there are citizens. A quirk of gun ownership and demographics, however, is that gun ownership is extremely concentrated. People appear to either not have a gun in their home - or many, very little middle ground. Most of the guns in the US are in rural areas (as are the majority of their owners)- but most of the gun crime, gun violence, and gun death is in urban areas. The majority of guns in the us are not handguns, but the majority of gun violence and gun death -is- attributed to handguns.
I typed most of that up not so much for your benefit, but for the benefit of those who might think that the US is some Mad Max no holds barred gunstravaganza. It isn;t. We have a very -specific- gun problem in the US..but everytime we go to legislate...we seem to avoid legislation that directly addresses that problem. Instead, we work up the nuts, who, despite being nuts.....don't seem to be a significant part of that problem...even though they're armed to the fucking teeth. It's almost like the whole things a show........meanwhile I;m wondering who on earth would have a problem with my shooting at tin cans..lol.
Ultimately, I may have to live, one day, in a us "without guns". Jackasses on both sides of the issue will fuck it up for me...and I'll have to spend more time with my bow. Until people start pissing their pants over -that- as well.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Speaking of gun laws, do you know when the first gun control law was passed in America?
Kentucky got the ball rolling in 1813 when it passed a law against carrying concealed guns. That led to the battle to make the Second Amendment an individual right.
And we all know about the western movies where the local sheriff goes all bad-ass on any cowboy who dares wear a gun in his town. Hollywood must have made 30,000 movies about that one topic and they were always in favor of gun control.
So everyone has been subjected to a lifetime of gun control propaganda. It's part of American culture. People are so brainwashed one way or another that it's almost impossible for anyone to change his mind about the topic. You either love gun control or you hate it. And since it has been going on for 200 years it's doubtful if anyone will give in soon.
So the question should be something along the lines of is it ever OK to kill someone who did you wrong? People are going to do it anyway by any means available.
(August 27, 2015 at 8:05 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Be sure to let us know when those British sheep get a constitution from those assholes in power in England. The peasants must have been upset about kidney pies.
When have your guns stepped in to stop the assholes in power in America?
The Revolutionary War & Civil War comes to mind. And people were always shooting politicians of all stripes.
![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
![[Image: Untitled2_zpswaosccbr.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1140.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn569%2Fthesummerqueen%2FUntitled2_zpswaosccbr.png)
