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Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 6:26 pm
In light of all the crap spread by bullshit artists under the guise of feminism, namely people like zoey Quinn and Anita sarkesian, I am genuinely curious as to what others consider legitimate women's rights issues.
A few I can think of is:
Sexually misconduct in the military, and how alarming it is.
The treatment and endangerment of sex trade workers that are nearly exclusively women.
And old white fuckers trying to tell women what they can do with their bodies. Any more ideas?
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Pay inequity and glass ceilings.
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 6:32 pm
Rape
Domestic violence
enforced and/or socially pressured dress codes in many countries
slut-shaming
shitty representation in the media (where Sarkesian kinda has a point, even if she's an overdramatic whiner)
Genital mutilation
Pay gap
Less opportunities at work
Less access to education
Just a few, I'm sure the list could go on
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Sexual misconduct, lower wages for the same jobs, slut shaming, domestic abuse, and other related topics. And that's in countries where they're not forced to cover themselves, and can usually be expected to travel safely without needing an escort.
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm
(October 26, 2015 at 6:36 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Sexual misconduct, lower wages for the same jobs, slut shaming, domestic abuse, and other related topics. And that's in countries where they're not forced to cover themselves, and can usually be expected to travel safely without needing an escort.
The thing about lower wages for the same jobs is I haven't really seen many credible studies to that effect. Don't get me wrong, I have no patients for employers that pull that kinda shit, but there a lot of reasons two people working the same job can have a wage gap, such as performance and experience.
Though wouldn't it stand to reason that if employers could pay women less they would hire women preferentially as they did in Victorian England? As for the other issues you've mentioned, I certainly agree with domestic abuse as a problem, but I do feel that as a someone who was in a relationship with a abusive woman for a long time, that the conservation needs to shift a bit. I do think that we should continue to call out physically abusive men, but we must realize that are a range of abusive behaviors that some women engage in is very real.
As for slut shaming, well I have never understood why it is anyone else's business what a womanbdoes her vagina.
The reason I bring up this topic is because I really wish that I could identify as a feminist because I very deeply believe that all humans should have equal rights, and equal opportunities as far as our society can possibly create them. But I can't feel comfortable and say I'm a feminist when I hear a minority of feminists preaching some insane shit, and working against my freedom of speech, and then hear silence from the majority.
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 9:32 pm
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2015 at 9:35 pm by MentalGiant.)
I venture to say most of the issues brought up are human right issues and certainly not exclusive to women (though in the developing world, I would have to agree women are far more repressed than in developed nations and do need the kind of feminism we experienced decades ago). Most modern feminists in developed countries want special treatment for women, not equal treatment and it's why as a woman I will not identify as a feminist. I don't want to be treated special just because I am a woman and that's what modern feminism promotes. Men get the short end of the stick on many of these issues (domestic abuse, sexual assault, genital mutilation, workplace discrimination, judgement for the consensual sexual activities they partake in ext... Just because women whine more doesn't mean men don't have these things happening to them too).
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 10:43 pm
Coercive sterilization of disabled women.
Misogynoir in media.
The slut shaming and victim blaming of women in cases of rape/sexual assault.
Fetishization of WoC.
Online stalking.
The disrespect for female authority.
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 26, 2015 at 10:53 pm
Leaving toilet seat up is conspicuously absent . . .
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 27, 2015 at 12:11 am
If you are dumb enough to fall in a toilet with the seat up and blame it on anyone but yourself, we can't live together.
But YLs list works for me.
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RE: Legitimate women's rights issues
October 27, 2015 at 6:37 am
(October 26, 2015 at 10:43 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Coercive sterilization of disabled women.
Misogynoir in media.
The slut shaming and victim blaming of women in cases of rape/sexual assault.
Fetishization of WoC.
Online stalking.
The disrespect for female authority. Could you please explain what women of color and exactly how all non white women are similar?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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