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Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 4:45 pm
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3302820/
It is a documentary that basically shows animal agriculture is the leading cause of our environmental problems, and he suggests that people stop eating less meat.
The problem is that this is 'Murica where people love their meat, and people are not going to give it up for anything.
One of the reasons I stopped being a vegan is the fact that my not eating meat was not going to have any impact on others not eating meat. They were going to eat meat regardless of my lifestyle choices. That is still true today. Meat, in moderation, is healthy, and that is why I will continue to eat meat. Due to how much people in this country love their meat, and the fact that producing the meat is a huge part of the monetary market, I never foresee animal agriculture decreasing.
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 5:06 pm
I've found that leading by example can make a difference. Several people have stopped eating meat after getting to know me. Not because I put any pressure on them, but because it caused them to think and talk about it with me.
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Didn't watch but have seen similar. The same could also be said for swine an poultry ranching.
Possible solution, eat alternative meat sources: fish, rabbit, guinea pig, goat, deer, .............
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 7:18 pm
Quote:he suggests that people stop eating less meat.
Stop. Eating. Less. Meat.
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 7:22 pm
(November 3, 2015 at 4:45 pm)Kitan Wrote: The problem is that this is 'Murica where people love their meat, and people are not going to give it up for anything.
One of the reasons I stopped being a vegan is the fact that my not eating meat was not going to have any impact on others not eating meat. They were going to eat meat regardless of my lifestyle choices.
Firstly, tragedy of the commons, it's a bitch.
Secondly, I've heard that beef production in the US has been declining in the last several years, and that overall meat consumption is declining as well.
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 7:42 pm
(November 3, 2015 at 7:22 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: Secondly, I've heard that beef production in the US has been declining in the last several years, and that overall meat consumption is declining as well.
That may well be - at least in part - because the stuff is getting outlandishly expensive. If I were feeding a family on a tight budget, beef would certainly not be what's for dinner, you know?
It used to be that beef was comparitively inexpensive, and fish (particularly shellfish) was an expensive luxury meal. The good news is, I now voluntarily eat a more fish and shellfish than I used to. Yay, says my physician and my wallet.
I expect I am not the only one.
I still like my beef, but with what it costs these days, I like a whole lot of other things just as much.
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 7:42 pm
They can pull that steak from my left hand and pull that gun from my right hand after I am dead.
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 7:45 pm
(November 3, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Skeletor Wrote: (November 3, 2015 at 7:22 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: Secondly, I've heard that beef production in the US has been declining in the last several years, and that overall meat consumption is declining as well.
That may well be - at least in part - because the stuff is getting outlandishly expensive. If I were feeding a family on a tight budget, beef would certainly not be what's for dinner, you know?
I've heard the arrow of causation goes the other way - that the price of beef has gone up because production has gone down. 
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 3, 2015 at 7:51 pm
(November 3, 2015 at 7:45 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: (November 3, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Skeletor Wrote: That may well be - at least in part - because the stuff is getting outlandishly expensive. If I were feeding a family on a tight budget, beef would certainly not be what's for dinner, you know?
I've heard the arrow of causation goes the other way - that the price of beef has gone up because production has gone down.
Could be. It's also inexorably tied to the cost of transportation.
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RE: Cowspiracy
November 4, 2015 at 7:05 am
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Not to shit in anyone's cereal, but the stat that provides reason for the documentary to exist is sourced from a single study.....with no peer review, and is more than a little bit nuts just on the surface of it (the many, smaller, ancillary claims are just as shady). Fucking, horrible, "documentary". Fantasy problems, fantasy solutions. It was entertaining and engaging, tho, decent production value. The organizations interviewed needed to send better reps, but probably didn't realize that they were going to be part of a "gotcha" type job.
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