Is Quran the proof of God?

[WinterHold]

Honestly all people are told what to do.
It's not always words, when you're hungry your body is actually telling you to go eat. As if your pleasure side is demanding; literally, tells you & whispering in your ear to do stuff.

So, we're not so different. 

Being a Muslim means to regulate that whispering voice, so it doesn't cause something like the atomic bombs.
A Muslim prefers to take God instead as the commander.

I said "told what to think", not what to do. Don't strawman me.

Thinking is a function produced by an organ; anyhow.
So, thinking is a "doing" after all; it's a function of the brain. Doing, thinking, potato potato..

That !

[Sheed1980]

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How many muslims do you think are in the Sombrero Galaxy?  
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...mbrero.jpg

Since I've never heard of the Sombrero Galaxy can't tell u exactly. But as of 2010 there are over 1.6 Billion Muslims on the planet Earth AND Islam is the world's fastest growing religion

[Cyberman]

I said "told what to think", not what to do. Don't strawman me.

Thinking is a function produced by an organ; anyhow.
So, thinking is a "doing" after all; it's a function of the brain. Doing, thinking, potato potato..

That !

I said don't strawman me. Twisting things around to wriggle out of what you said just makes you more dishonest. I'm asking you to pack it in.

[brewer]

That's just the point. This book(The Qur'an)does prove these things. Math and science are the same all over the universe. I don't care how u look at it 1+1=2. So no matter what country you're from or what race or religion u are or what language u speak or what corner of the Earth u live on, it's always going to be the same. Now as I said b4 we'll leave the mathematical miracles out because as u say it's a so called "Numbers game". As for linguistics. The chapters of the Qur'an have a rhyming sense to them, in the Arabic language, in a scripture revealed during a time when society was   huge on poetry. The Qur'an was sent to mankind in the 7th century but for the rest of mankind's existence on Earth. If u think about how much poetry plays a part in our lives today. Poetry is a huge part of our lifestyles to this day. Things as common as the music we listen to contain poetry which is the same lifestyle that existed over 1400 years b4 the Qur'an's first being revealed. This showing that all of the rest of mankind, however many years we last, the Qur'an will apply to our lifestyles. Now as for the scientific and astronomical aspect. These miracles were placed in a scripture by God Himself in the 7th century when telescopes, microscopes, x-rays, space shuttles, computers and all kinds of other technology that are with us today did not yet exist. So who else could have known these SCIENTIFIC AND ASTRONOMICAL FACTS about our planet and our universe besides God Himself, especially in the 7th century, a time period where humans thought the Earth was flat, and the mountains held up the skies? Another question is how many of these scientific, what I call miracles, do you have to witness b4 u stop saying they are just coincidences? How many coincidences can there be? After all things come together, all the so called "coincidences" prove to be a divine plan, where if u don't believe in iit, there are tons of ways that exist today, to verify the information. I'd also like to know what single human being that lived in the 7th century knew of any other planet in our solar system. It's name, and one of the satellites(moons)that orbits it, knowing it's name too, then mentions them both in a 7th century scripture in the same chapter, named "sand dunes", which our technology today has enabled us to see that this specific planet(Mars)is covered with sand dunes, and was was not theorized and named until the 16th century. Also what human in the 7th century knew of a planet that takes 243 Earth days to revolve around the sun while it rotates on its own axis at a 177 degree angle and names the planet(Venus)in a scripture with Arabic letters in 3 verses, 2 exactly 243 verses apart, and the third in 17:7 which is the exact angle on which the planet rotates? Also what human could've known that the universe was expanding in the 7th century, and has been since, and still is today? So what being besides God Almighty, The Creator of the heavens and the Earth, could have known these scientific facts which again have been verified by our technology today? This is why God challenges any and every human being who thinks they can prevail, to come up with just 1 single chapter like that of the Qur'an. Not only does it rhyme, and give a significant message, but each and every single letter corresponds to every other letter in that chapter as well and also can give scientific and astronomical information. IT CANNOT BE ACCOMPLISHED. The challenge still stands and has never been and never will be defeated. God has said this Himself. He will not allow it to happen, by doing He shows that no human, no matter how intelligent, could ever produce an entire scripture, let alone a single chapter, like that of the Qur'an. This showing it could only be produced by God Almighty Himself.

You're a looney. Please take it else where. We don't want, and refuse to believe, what you are selling.

[Cyberman]

Even if Islam is the world's fastest growing religion, pride in idiocy is not a compliment.

[WinterHold]

Thinking is a function produced by an organ; anyhow.
So, thinking is a "doing" after all; it's a function of the brain. Doing, thinking, potato potato..

That !

I said don't strawman me. Twisting things around to wriggle out of what you said just makes you more dishonest. I'm asking you to pack it in.

wriggle ? I never do that !
But focusing on tiny bits while ignoring the big picture, is where I point !!

Dishonest is a big word.

[Cyberman]

I said "told what to think". You changed that to "told what to do". Then you equivocated the two to make it seem like you hadn't altered my meaning. That is dishonest.

[WinterHold]

I said "told what to think". You changed that to "told what to do". Then you equivocated the two to make it seem like you hadn't altered my meaning. That is dishonest.

Just referring to the small distance.

[Sheed1980]

That's just the point. This book(The Qur'an)does prove these things. Math and science are the same all over the universe. I don't care how u look at it 1+1=2. So no matter what country you're from or what race or religion u are or what language u speak or what corner of the Earth u live on, it's always going to be the same. Now as I said b4 we'll leave the mathematical miracles out because as u say it's a so called "Numbers game". As for linguistics. The chapters of the Qur'an have a rhyming sense to them, in the Arabic language, in a scripture revealed during a time when society was   huge on poetry. The Qur'an was sent to mankind in the 7th century but for the rest of mankind's existence on Earth. If u think about how much poetry plays a part in our lives today. Poetry is a huge part of our lifestyles to this day. Things as common as the music we listen to contain poetry which is the same lifestyle that existed over 1400 years b4 the Qur'an's first being revealed. This showing that all of the rest of mankind, however many years we last, the Qur'an will apply to our lifestyles. Now as for the scientific and astronomical aspect. These miracles were placed in a scripture by God Himself in the 7th century when telescopes, microscopes, x-rays, space shuttles, computers and all kinds of other technology that are with us today did not yet exist. So who else could have known these SCIENTIFIC AND ASTRONOMICAL FACTS about our planet and our universe besides God Himself, especially in the 7th century, a time period where humans thought the Earth was flat, and the mountains held up the skies? Another question is how many of these scientific, what I call miracles, do you have to witness b4 u stop saying they are just coincidences? How many coincidences can there be? After all things come together, all the so called "coincidences" prove to be a divine plan, where if u don't believe in iit, there are tons of ways that exist today, to verify the information. I'd also like to know what single human being that lived in the 7th century knew of any other planet in our solar system. It's name, and one of the satellites(moons)that orbits it, knowing it's name too, then mentions them both in a 7th century scripture in the same chapter, named "sand dunes", which our technology today has enabled us to see that this specific planet(Mars)is covered with sand dunes, and was was not theorized and named until the 16th century. Also what human in the 7th century knew of a planet that takes 243 Earth days to revolve around the sun while it rotates on its own axis at a 177 degree angle and names the planet(Venus)in a scripture with Arabic letters in 3 verses, 2 exactly 243 verses apart, and the third in 17:7 which is the exact angle on which the planet rotates? Also what human could've known that the universe was expanding in the 7th century, and has been since, and still is today? So what being besides God Almighty, The Creator of the heavens and the Earth, could have known these scientific facts which again have been verified by our technology today? This is why God challenges any and every human being who thinks they can prevail, to come up with just 1 single chapter like that of the Qur'an. Not only does it rhyme, and give a significant message, but each and every single letter corresponds to every other letter in that chapter as well and also can give scientific and astronomical information. IT CANNOT BE ACCOMPLISHED. The challenge still stands and has never been and never will be defeated. God has said this Himself. He will not allow it to happen, by doing He shows that no human, no matter how intelligent, could ever produce an entire scripture, let alone a single chapter, like that of the Qur'an. This showing it could only be produced by God Almighty Himself.

You're a looney. Please take it else where. We don't want, and refuse to believe, what you are selling.

Hey my duty as a Muslim is not to make u accept Islam as ur belief. Allah guides whom He wills and He leaves to stray whom He wills. My duty is to at least tell u about what our beautiful religion really consists of. This way when ur judged b4 ur Creator on the Day of Judgment, u certainly can't say "My Lord I didn't know about Islam". That's why He sent Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)as a messenger to all mankind and we follow his leadership. So u know about Islam, u just don't accept it. So as Allah says in the Qur'an: "So he who wills to believe, let him believe, and he who wills to reject faith, let him reject. That's what the gift of free will is all about. But I have no hard feelings towards u, and wish u the best. Good luck to u my friend

[brewer]

Hey my duty as a Muslim is not to make u accept Islam as ur belief. Allah guides whom He wills and He leaves to stray whom He wills. My duty is to at least tell u about what our beautiful religion really consists of. This way when ur judged b4 ur Creator on the Day of Judgment, u certainly can't say "My Lord I didn't know about Islam". That's why He sent Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)as a messenger to all mankind and we follow his leadership. So u know about Islam, u just don't accept it. So as Allah says in the Qur'an: "So he who wills to believe, let him believe, and he who wills to reject faith, let him reject. That's what the gift of free will is all about. But I have no hard feelings towards u, and wish u the best. Good luck to u my friend

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