A real tweet I just got from a Drumpf supporter...

[abaris]

Just like I trust my mom and love her, she is of the same Catholic book that was used to justify it's horrors. 

As I always keep saying, I wouldn't trust catholics with minors, but with the codes to a nuclear facility. With evangelicals, not so much.

[Alex K]

Just like I trust my mom and love her, she is of the same Catholic book that was used to justify it's horrors. 

As I always keep saying, I wouldn't trust catholics with minors, but with the codes to a nuclear facility. With evangelicals, not so much.

So true. The Catholic leadership are several unpleasant things, but they are not crazy maniacs.

[Brian37]

Just like I trust my mom and love her, she is of the same Catholic book that was used to justify it's horrors. 

As I always keep saying, I wouldn't trust catholics with minors, but with the codes to a nuclear facility. With evangelicals, not so much.

Abris, even with atheists, labels don't constitute magic morality and only do good in every case. Labels are what humans get stuck on, even political and business ideology, and all those things really amount to the excuses humans make to get to resources. 

You'll never have a delusion free world, only a better managed one.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

If one wants to argue that the allies shouldn't have left Germany to rot after WW1, which is why Hitler was ripe to rise having the ability to prey upon desperate people, that would be a better argument. But, here is what this sicko posted. So basically Hitler was justified in murdering 6 million Jews and causing the deaths of 50 million humans worldwide? 

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@Brianrrs37 Jews backstabbed germany in ww1 & cost them the war & crippled their economy thus your scapegoat comment is WRONG.

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There's an article in the December 30, 1917, edition of the New York Times that tells about how the German Jewish financiers were blackmailing the German government for its support for the Jewish State in Palestine in exchange for their support for a needed German war loan.  The Government should have shot them on the spot.  

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.ht...946696D6CF

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fre...946696D6CF

[Brian37]

As I always keep saying, I wouldn't trust catholics with minors, but with the codes to a nuclear facility. With evangelicals, not so much.

So true. The Catholic leadership are several unpleasant things, but they are not crazy maniacs.

 Not now they are not crazy, no, but the book itself was written in a very tribal time where loyalty was much more blind. 

Time and real human empathy and western secular law has put a leash on religion, in spite of religion. The god of Abraham is a very bat shit insane character, not a real character, but a fictional character. You have to consider what life was like back then for ALL religions in antiquity.

Even in polytheism, you still had local tribal kingships, where you had the ruling/warrior class and everyone else, and the mortality rate was much higher so loyalty from an evolutionary standpoint was much more understandable. Even prior to any set boarders or the first written religions, life was much more rough and dependent on "kill or be killed". 

You combine our species ignorance with god claims, the religions set up social and local and tribal pecking orders which in turn lead humans to create these "protect the tribe at all costs" constructs. 

My mom certainly would not burn me or torture me, but the Church long before our modern understanding of science used the bible to do very horrible things to humans. And even today the Catholic League in America is just as right wing as any Evangelical Baptist. 

But especially with all three monotheistic Abraham religions, they still stem from the same Yahweh character, whom was taken from the tribal polytheism of the Canaanites. 

The Church has a leash on it now, but even with that leash, it still sticks its nose into global social issues and speaks with a forked tongue, and has only recently backed off issues of abortion and condom use. But it is still targeting more poor countries because less educated societies are easier pickings to gain converts. 

Now does that make all Catholics as individuals evil? No of course not. And as with all religions regardless, we should always treat individuals as such. But, increasingly I grow weary of the argument "At least", well yea, at least they don't........ Sure, but while there is no such thing as a utopia, and you cant rid the world of any religion, this comparing less or more, isn't a proper way of framing the argument.


I think a better argument to make than "At least", would be "Lets treat everyone as individuals and value at the same time the ability to question any and all religious claims".