She obviously never met a Drumpf fan.

(April 18, 2016 at 2:19 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(April 18, 2016 at 2:12 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I'm trying to figure out the basis of his premise. I thought WW1 was a battle between empires over the economic and physical domination of Europe and certain world resources, ending in the repression of the losing side by the winning empires.

What the hell could the Jews have possibly done?

All the main protagonists were related, so it was basically a family feud that got a bit out of hand.

"A bit out of hand?" I'd say that would be an under statement.

(April 18, 2016 at 2:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: it is certainly within reason to blame the Muslims of 9/11

I beg your pardon?

(April 18, 2016 at 2:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: She obviously never met a Drumpf fan.

Yea, but as much as anyone can despise another human being, and many do, it still is not ok to make sweeping judgments which is what was done to her. I don't even think she'd want that done to Drumpf supporters considering what was done to her.

It is certainly ok to go after bad ideas and violent individuals but once you get into demagoguery, you end up with what happened to her. I don't think she'd want our response to Drumpf to be the same as what Drumpf dishes out.

(April 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Alex K Wrote:

(April 18, 2016 at 2:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: it is certainly within reason to blame the Muslims of 9/11

I beg your pardon?

Ok sorry for the ADD aflicted, the Muslims responsible, not all Muslims. It still remains that they still got their morality that lead them to do that from religion and holy books. No, I am not willing to lump Malala in with that trash because she shares the same god.

(April 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Alex K Wrote:

(April 18, 2016 at 2:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: it is certainly within reason to blame the Muslims of 9/11

I beg your pardon?

I'm sure he meant to say, "It is certainly within reason to blame a runaway radical ideology within the religion of Islam, which has hijacked the culture in the most poverty-stricken, war-torn, lawless areas, for 9/11".

(April 18, 2016 at 3:23 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I'm sure he meant to say, "It is certainly within reason to blame a runaway radical ideology within the religion of Islam, which has hijacked the culture in the most poverty-stricken, war-torn, lawless areas, for 9/11".

You can even blame Islam for it, since it's as open to interpretation as christianity or judaism. It's the followers of any given religion where the distinction kicks in. Drippy's form of christianity would be as dangerous and leathal as Al Baghdadi's, if given half a chance. CL's or Kingpins one, not so much.

(April 18, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Alex K Wrote: I beg your pardon?

Ok sorry for the ADD aflicted, the Muslims responsible, not all Muslims. It still remains that they still got their morality that lead them to do that from religion and holy books. No, I am not willing to lump Malala in with that trash because she shares the same god.

It's kind of tautological that one can blame the responsible Muslims, that's why I was unsure what you mean.

(April 18, 2016 at 3:23 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:

(April 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Alex K Wrote: I beg your pardon?

I'm sure he meant to say, "It is certainly within reason to blame a runaway radical ideology within the religion of Islam, which has hijacked the culture in the most poverty-stricken, war-torn, lawless areas, for 9/11".

Meh, no see that is the right idea, in separating the individual from the label, but the left in EVERY religion still does not want to face that the same label and same books are used to justify those things. The 19 hijackers were not poor, they came from very stable families, just like Bin Laden.

I'd still tell Malala that it is the same god and the same book the violent side she and I rightfully  recoil at. Just like I would tell any empathetic liberal Christian that the likes of John Hagee are also under the same umbrella label. 

Every religion has an umbrella label under which there are competing sub sects who view the label and writings differently. That is where the majority of our species conflict comes from. It isn't that you can force any religion out of existence, but morso that the empathetic left is used far to much as cover which allows the violent right to do what they do.

Our species empathy is not coming from any label, not even "atheist". Our species behavior, both good and bad, cooperation or force, and unfortunately BOTH work. I think the more humans think in terms of nature instead of labels, the more we think in terms of individuals instead of labels, we still will not have a perfect world, but our management of our division collectively can be far less violent.

(April 18, 2016 at 3:34 pm)Alex K Wrote:

(April 18, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ok sorry for the ADD aflicted, the Muslims responsible, not all Muslims. It still remains that they still got their morality that lead them to do that from religion and holy books. No, I am not willing to lump Malala in with that trash because she shares the same god.

It's kind of tautological that one can blame the responsible Muslims, that's why I was unsure what you mean.

If you want blanket solutions vote Drumpf.


That does not change like I said though, as much as I could trust Malala not to behead me, it still remains those who would get their morality from the same book. Just like I trust my mom and love her, she is of the same Catholic book that was used to justify it's horrors. 

Religion is a great way to form groups, but it is a horrible way to manage global diplomacy.