Afghan riots over Quran-burning: 2 days, 20 dead

[Ashendant]

I don't agree... I'll defend the right for the priest to do it, but not him doing it.

The responsibility is also on the priest because he knew this would happen and he did it anyway, the families of the dead should go to his home and get a free slap

[reverendjeremiah]

rj I disagree for the simple fact that his actions affect so many other people. Knowing how extreme most Muslims are in the middle east, and knowing that we have troops there and other American civilians there it's outright criminal and irresponsible in my view. His actions are the equivalent of accessory to murder in the sense that although he did not commit the murders himself he set in motion the events that would lead to the murders.

You may be willing to give up your freedoms to appease some backwards ass cave dwellers in some 3rd world country, but I will not. How about that right winger who went into that unitarian church and started blasting people with a shotgun? He did it because he got mad about anything liberal. So according to your logic I should be held accountable for this crazy fuck because I spread liberalism..what "caused" him to go on a killing spree. Terrorists are not to be bargained with. They are to be watched closely and dealt with harshly when they act.

Part of being a moral person is being a responsible person and this mans actions were just outright irresponsible. His actions led to various deaths and the toll continues to rise. There is no justification for what he did amendment rights or not. Afghanistan is not America and do not adhere to nor acknowledge those so called amendment rights. He should have thought very carefully about the consequences of his actions before he burned the Koran, if he wanted to do it so badly he could have done it privately in front of his church lawn and not make an international affair of it. Video taping the event and posting it on youtube was even more stupid.

We are not popular in the middle east and this does not help one iota.

Right, because the people who went on a killing spree had a good reason to do so. Dont give those cave dwelling blood thirsty idiots over there special treatments or benefits of the doubt. This man burnt a book.. the blood thirsty rag heads ran around killing people. Religion of peace my ass..this should reflect VERY POORLY on Islam as a whole. If we give special protection to Islam, then why not do the same for Christianity, or other religions? Should someone be jailed for burning a bible as well? Or is it okay for them to burn it, as long as it doesnt offend the muslims?

[chatpilot]

Lmfao Ashendant its true though. Although he has the right to burn it he should not have done it knowing that he is endangering American lives overseas because of this one ignorant and stupid act. Fuck the Koran in my opinion you have to look at the bigger picture.

[chatpilot]

I don't condone burning books of any nature but I am pretty sure if someone burned a bible, in fact I have actually burned one myself it will create a massive riot from the Christians. They would air their disgust or even blame it on the influence of Satan etc. but they wont run rampant around the country killing atheist etc. When I first left the church I took on of my personal bibles and burned it to ashes. It was a private affair and I thought I needed to do it at the time to sort of sever myself from those beliefs and the fear that accompanied my beliefs in God.

How is not burning a Koran giving in to terrorist? I don't see the connection. It's not the fact that he burned a Koran it is the fact that he put many peoples lives at risk. I bet if you were a soldier deployed in Afghanistan your opinions would not be so strong against this mans actions. If you were in the thick of it yourself I'm pretty sure you would actually be pissed if you knew that your life was in immediate danger because of the irresponsible actions of an ignorant Christian minister.

[reverendjeremiah]

I don't condone burning books of any nature but I am pretty sure if someone burned a bible, in fact I have actually burned one myself it will create a massive riot from the Christians. They would air their disgust or even blame it on the influence of Satan etc. but they wont run rampant around the country killing atheist etc. When I first left the church I took on of my personal bibles and burned it to ashes. It was a private affair and I thought I needed to do it at the time to sort of sever myself from those beliefs and the fear that accompanied my beliefs in God.

I understand, and please dont take this as me being hateful at you. I am merely disagreeing. I have burned bibles and korans as well. I personally dispise burning books, but at the same time this is the 21st century. Who uses books anymore? Everything is on the net.

How is not burning a Koran giving in to terrorist? I don't see the connection. It's not the fact that he burned a Koran it is the fact that he put many peoples lives at risk. I bet if you were a soldier deployed in Afghanistan your opinions would not be so strong against this mans actions. If you were in the thick of it yourself I'm pretty sure you would actually be pissed if you knew that your life was in immediate danger because of the irresponsible actions of an ignorant Christian minister.

I didnt say not burning the koran is giving into terrorists. I said that curbing our freedoms because of their reactions (you said the guy should be jailed) is caving into terrorists. You said we should hand that pastor over to those blood thirsty terrorists as a punishment..that is caving into the terrorists. If I was a soldier I would consider my life in immediate danger every single second over there in the mid east. I would also stand behind this mans first amendment rights that I would be fighting to protect, and that I made an oath to protect as well.

Penalty for burning a Koran: Death!

That isnt how we Americans do it. Over here we have first amendment freedoms. If you were to (hypothetically speaking) try to do any of these things to this pastor I guarentee you would loose in every single court of law.

[reverendjeremiah]

Fuck the Koran in my opinion you have to look at the bigger picture.

..and since this is posted on a world wide forum, if your words "fuck the koran" got people in afghanistan pissed and went out killing Americans over there...then what? Should we throw you in jail? Or should we hand you over to the mobs in afghanistan?

Or are you going to say that is different? That it is protected in the first amendment.

Am I not looking at the bigger picture?

[Ashendant]

Lmfao Ashendant its true though. Although he has the right to burn it he should not have done it knowing that he is endangering American lives overseas because of this one ignorant and stupid act. Fuck the Koran in my opinion you have to look at the bigger picture.

Remove the American ad i'm okay with this

..and since this is posted on a world wide forum, if your words "fuck the koran" got people in afghanistan pissed and went out killing Americans over there...then what? Should we throw you in jail? Or should we hand you over to the mobs in afghanistan?

Or are you going to say that is different? That it is protected in the first amendment.

Am I not looking at the bigger picture?

Neither, i want him to suffer the full brunt of guilt his acts caused to the victim's families

I also accept giving free bibles to angry muslims so they could burns, it's a eye for a eye not a eye for a head

Well it's truth what they say about burning books
-"When you start with books, you end with people."

[reverendjeremiah]

Neither, i want him to suffer the full brunt of guilt his acts caused to the victim's families

I also accept giving free bibles to angry muslims so they could burns, it's a eye for a eye not a eye for a head

Well it's truth what they say about burning books
-"When you start with books, you end with people."

So you are saying the same as chat pilot..that it wasnt the muslims fault that they killed people, but the christian pastor for burning the koran?

[chatpilot]

rj there you go putting words into my mouth. I never said it wasn't the muslims fault that they killed people, I said that the pastors actions make him responsible as well. If I sold you a gun and you went and shot some poor old lady to rob her purse in my view you are just as responsible for that ladies death for selling an illegal gun in the first place.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

[Ashendant]

rj there you go putting words into my mouth. I never said it wasn't the muslims fault that they killed people, I said that the pastors actions make him responsible as well. If I sold you a gun and you went and shot some poor old lady to rob her purse in my view you are just as responsible for that ladies death for selling an illegal gun in the first place.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Yeah RJ, you're misunderstanding our arguments