Time To Stop Wasting Everyone's Time, Bernie

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I'm still genuinely surprised that you dislike Bernie so much.

[GrandizerII]

I never pegged you for being such a defeatist.

You know, he's 300 points behind in delegates so let's just pack up our shit and go home. No use in trying to stir up anything.

There's so much more going on here than presidency. We are about to see the largest number of votes cast outside the two party candidates that we've seen in a very long time. He may not have gotten the nomination but he has to fight to the end because he's putting things in motion. Getting people stirred up is a big deal.

What planet are you on?

Clinton  2161
Sanders  1357

That's 800 delegates behind.

Defeatist?  Tell me, if you were captain of the Hindenburg would be telling the crew "it's just a small fire, boys.  Break out the hoses!"

Getting people stirred up is a big deal.

No, dear.  This is politics.  Winning is what matters.

Minimalist, please stop with this misleading data. You're still including superdelegates even after Tiberius and others have made this very clear to you. Sanders is only behind by a 200-300 points.

[GrandizerII]

Tell that to the republicunts.

Tell that to yourself as well. You are part of the problem.

[Edwardo Piet]

I never expected Min to like any politician ever, TBH.

[Minimalist]

I have no delusions of grandeur, guys.

If Sanders won it would be a continuation of republicunt obstructionism just like the last 8 years.  Meanwhile, they will continue to make the red states redder with voter suppression and gerry-mandering and you'll all sit there and whine about how "unfair" it all is.

Politics is about power.  It looks as if you are going to have to learn that the hard way.

[GrandizerII]

I have no delusions of grandeur, guys.

If Sanders won it would be a continuation of republicunt obstructionism just like the last 8 years.  Meanwhile, they will continue to make the red states redder with voter suppression and gerry-mandering and you'll all sit there and whine about how "unfair" it all is.

Politics is about power.  It looks as if you are going to have to learn that the hard way.

What's that clear advantage of having Hillary as president as opposed to Bernie? Hillary is hated by republicans even more than Obama.

[Minimalist]

I think the republicunts would have torn Sanders to shreds in the general election.

For a considerable portion of the electorate this is all they needed.




Otherwise, aside from the pie-in-the-sky nature of some of Sanders' proposals you're right.  There is no real difference between them...except Gun Control which I strongly favor.
That wouldn't help him with the rednecks though..... they ain't votin' for no jew socialist, no way - no how.  Jesus wouldn't like it.

Sanders opposes "foreign entanglements" which sounds nice except we are already entangled all over the fucking world as a result of a 60 year process of trying to contain communism.  Most things in life are easier to get into than out of.  I'm not convinced that Sanders is much better adapted to the world situation than that shithead Trump.  You know, when you avoid "foreign entanglements" you get very close to the Dubya position of not talking to anyone who opposes us.  This is a shitty idea.  Hillary is a much better diplomat.  

http://presidential-candidates.insidegov...ry-Clinton

I suppose you can work yourself up into a lather because in the comparison above in a few places one agrees ( or disagrees) and the other "strongly agrees or disagrees" but that's just hyperbole.

Now, here is reality:  No matter who wins the presidency it is vital to flip the senate back to the democrats and to whittle down the GOP majority in the house.  Failing that, expect to see the social gains of the last few years reversed with one more conservatard justice named to the court.  That is what is at stake.

[Minimalist]

I don't know why but this seems like the ideal place to put this.

[ReptilianPeon]

New poll out today: Trump is two points ahead of Clinton nationally. Last week another one had Trump +2 over Clinton and another had them tied. According to the real clear politics average of polls, Clinton is quickly losing her lead over Trump. Clinton is too arrogant for her own good. She feels entitled to the presidency and that's why she wants to be president.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...-5491.html

If Clinton gets the nomination, thus probing how stupid and naive millions of Americans are, then America deserves whatever the Republicans throw at them. She's a criminal who is so disliked that she can only get the nomination by cheating. When Trump actually wins I'll be looking forward to the faces of the SJWs that voted that criminal simply because she's a woman.

[Chad32]

I'm not too surprised. She's an establishment candidate, and Trump is running anti establishment. The people are tired of the status quo. I would have really liked to see Trump go up against Bernie, despite the fact that some beieve thta if the republicans scream the S word loudly and often enough, it will stick against The Burn.