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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm
(May 17, 2016 at 4:33 pm)quip Wrote: (May 17, 2016 at 4:29 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Genetics. Chance. My Father met my Mother - would have never happened if he had not signed up for a summer apprenticeship in Nashville. Pure chance. Human biology. No "who or what" or any outside influence needed, and none in evidence.
Missing the point.
What determined this particular gene pool as "yours"?
Pure chance. And it's a sucky gene pool! I certainly wouldn't have chosen it.
You seem to be implying that there is such a thing as "fate" or "god's plan" or some such woo.
I don't buy it. If you have evidence for it, provide it. Don't just hammer us with nonsense questions.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:38 pm
(May 17, 2016 at 4:29 pm)quip Wrote: (May 17, 2016 at 4:26 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: There, you answered your own question.
Well no, not really. Just yours.
It's mere food for thought, an enticing thought experiment. 
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm
But people are giving you answers and you're just saying "That's not what I'm looking for." Well, describe exactly what you are looking for.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:41 pm
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(May 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (May 17, 2016 at 4:33 pm)quip Wrote: Missing the point.
What determined this particular gene pool as "yours"?
Pure chance. And it's a sucky gene pool! I certainly wouldn't have chosen it.
You seem to be implying that there is such a thing as "fate" or "god's plan" or some such woo.
I don't buy it. If you have evidence for it, provide it. Don't just hammer us with nonsense questions.
If I had evidence I wouldn't need the hammer...now would I?
It's only nonsense to those attempting to sweep such under the rug. Outa' sight, outa' mind?
(May 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But people are giving you answers and you're just saying "That's not what I'm looking for." Well, describe exactly what you are looking for.
I'm not looking for anything...just posing some interesting questions, gauging responses.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:44 pm
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(May 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (May 17, 2016 at 4:33 pm)quip Wrote: Missing the point.
What determined this particular gene pool as "yours"?
Pure chance. And it's a sucky gene pool! I certainly wouldn't have chosen it.
You seem to be implying that there is such a thing as "fate" or "god's plan" or some such woo.
I don't buy it. If you have evidence for it, provide it. Don't just hammer us with nonsense questions.
Pure chance? Hehehe, plenty of chance, but none of it is pure, when it comes to genetics. 
@ quip I see we're starting to go off the religious rails...claiming that people are trying to sweep some undefined thing under a rug. Par for the course.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:52 pm
(May 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (May 17, 2016 at 4:20 pm)quip Wrote: What determines "my parents"; The owners of the sex organs from which you were produced, in most cases.
Correct, though I'm referring to "you" prior to conception.
Quote: "my sensory system"...etc in relation to yours prior to either of our extant circumstances?
There is no me and you or us to compare or contrast "prior to our extant circumstances". The question is nonsensical in context. Rephrase?
Perhaps, that's where science may fall short. QED
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm
Mhm, which unfortunately is why "We don't know, let's see if we can find out more in the future."
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:56 pm
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(May 17, 2016 at 4:52 pm)quip Wrote: (May 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The owners of the sex organs from which you were produced, in most cases.
Correct, though I'm referring to "you" prior to conception.
There is no me and you or us to compare or contrast "prior to our extant circumstances". The question is nonsensical in context. Rephrase?
Perhaps, that's where science may fall short. QED
QED...lol? You intended to demonstrate that science can't answer a non-sensical question? Congratulations...I guess.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 4:57 pm
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(May 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Mhm, which unfortunately is why "We don't know, let's see if we can find out more in the future."
Again perhaps, though is even within the purview of science?
(May 17, 2016 at 4:56 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (May 17, 2016 at 4:52 pm)quip Wrote: Perhaps, that's where science may fall short. QED
QED...lol? You intended to demonstrate that science can't answer a non-sensical question? Congratulations...I guess. Thanks.
Though don't write science off too fast!
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 17, 2016 at 5:03 pm
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I'm pretty certain that science can;t answer a non-sensical question. Not an issue of writing it off, it just doesn't lay claim to that ability. Come to think of it.....I don;t know that there -is- a way to answer a nonsensical question. That's sort of the problem with non-sensical questions.
Do you have a method that works on that sort of thing? Here, lt me toss a few your way and you can grace us with answers.
-Why is the sky hotdog?
-Why is the grass Steve?
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