Purgatory Explained?

[IATIA]

Actually they dropped purgatory and limbo.

Purgatory was where one went for the final cleansing of the soul before heaven. Limbo was where all the unbaptized babies went.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

It just seems to be the sort of thing the Roman Catholic Church did to bilk the Midieval peasents out of their money?

As if the Protestant idea of the Prosperity Gospel is any different.

Your're so fucking stupid. Medieval peasants didn't have disposable income to give to the church. Indulgences were only sought from those that had money. Your modern day huckster is far worse, he/she attempts to suck the last dime from the paranoid elderly, knowing they're close to death. Fear mongering for profit at its best.

I can't imagine why Jesus needs money. Even if he did, why ask self anointed charlatans to transact the deal? Are you telling me that Jesus can miraculously create a shit load of fish and loaves and water out of wine, but currency kicks his ass?

Don't you remember the Fourth Commandment?  You gotta bring the best loot when you go see God.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Exodus%2034:20

[IATIA]

So if they do not redeem the firstborns, are they supposed to break their necks too?

[Silver]

Any religious related word can be easily explained with one word: fiction.

[Minimalist]

Can someone explain to me the Roman Catholic doctrine of Purgatory?

Yes.  It's silly shit.  Like the rest of xtianity.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

How do they justify it? Purgatory is not in the Bible.

Actually, it is in the Bible, but most Christians are too bullheaded and shortsighted to look at any Bible but their own particular version. References to (but not the word) Purgatory can be found in 2 Maccabees. The doctrine itself predates even the earliest forms of Christianity.

So, no movement on that self-immolation request?

Boru

[vorlon13]

Actually they dropped purgatory and limbo.

Purgatory was where one went for the final cleansing of the soul before heaven.  Limbo was where all the unbaptized babies went.

[Homeless Nutter]

Can someone explain to me the Roman Catholic doctrine of Purgatory?
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Here, straight from the horse's ar*e:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/ar...123a12.htm

III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY
1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.
1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607

As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608

1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:

Let us help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by their father's sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611

[Redbeard The Pink]

Can someone explain to me the Roman Catholic doctrine of Purgatory?

I think its sort of like some "intermediate" state where one can pray for the souls of the dead so they can go to heaven quicker?

How do they justify it? Purgatory is not in the Bible.

It just seems to be the sort of thing the Roman Catholic Church did to bilk the Midieval peasents out of their money? Want grandma to go to heaven? Give all your money to the "Church."

Are there any current or ex-Roman Catholics, or those knowledgable about  Roman Catholic dogma who can explain this?

Got this.


Catholics had already accepted the idea of Hell. Hell is scary, though, and it's uncomfortable to think about what happened to your dead relatives who weren't Catholic. To assuage these fears, they invented a realm of second chances where slightly shitty people can still get to Heaven and your dead relatives can be saved if enough people just wish hard enough.


Solution granted.

[brewer]

It just seems to be the sort of thing the Roman Catholic Church did to bilk the Midieval peasents out of their money?

As if the Protestant idea of the Prosperity Gospel is any different.

Your're so fucking stupid. Medieval peasants didn't have disposable income to give to the church. Indulgences were only sought from those that had money. Your modern day huckster is far worse, he/she attempts to suck the last dime from the paranoid elderly, knowing they're close to death. Fear mongering for profit at its best.

I can't imagine why Jesus needs money. Even if he did, why ask self anointed charlatans to transact the deal? Are you telling me that Jesus can miraculously create a shit load of fish and loaves and water out of wine, but currency kicks his ass?

I recollect correctly my infant/childhood church bliked money out of children during lent. I'm pretty sure Janasses does also.

http://www.umcdiscipleship.org/resources/coins-for-lent
http://www.churchsupplier.com/shopsite_s...aners.html

Getum while thar young!