(June 1, 2016 at 7:04 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:They made the wrong choice. The gorilla wasn't harming the kid and there wouldn't have been a problem but the lunatics started yelling and excited the gorilla, who quickly pulled the kid out of potential danger. The kid is a goner. Some thug cop will blow him away in a few years because the cop "feared for his life". He was safer with the gorillas than he is with the humans.(June 1, 2016 at 7:03 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The kid wasn't physically hurt.
But there was still a risk that the gorilla could hurt the child. I'm glad they made the right choice.
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   RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 7:54 pm
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(June 1, 2016 at 4:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry I keep harping on this, it just seems like you and IATI were back tracking some when I pointed it out and it makes me looks stupid for bringing it up at all. We don't thank your god for cancer, do we? The point is that this lady thanking god for saving her child ignores the fact that your god had the power to ensure that the child was never in danger at all. "Douchey" is a strong word for my taste, but think you're taking the insult personally and ignoring the broader point. The rivers are full of crocodile nasties
And He who made kittens put snakes in the grass He's a lover of life but a player of pawns Yes, the King on His sunset lies waiting for dawn To light up His Jungle as play is resumed The monkeys seem willing to strike up the tune This is a form of "counting the hits." Crediting your god with the good stuff and never looking at the tumors or predators or virii that he made. When you do that before crediting the folks who did the heavy lifting, it doesn't come across well. God had nothing on the line -- nothing. I mean, he could resurrect the gorilla if that was his loss, the child should the child have died -- hell, he resurrected himself according to your dogma. Long story short: if this unfolded according to your god's plan, what is the point of thanking him? He's gonna do what he damned well pleases, and we humans had ought to shut up and take it, for better or worse. "Douchey" to thank him? I don't think so. Thoughtless? You bet your ass. 
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Gorillas do not have the right to bear arms! Gorillas as all animals live by one rule. The rule of the jungle. Kill or be killed. So we killed him? What's the problem? We are just animals protecting our own?, aren't we? You're not turning religious on me, are you?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  (June 1, 2016 at 7:13 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(June 1, 2016 at 7:04 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: But there was still a risk that the gorilla could hurt the child. I'm glad they made the right choice.They made the wrong choice. The gorilla wasn't harming the kid and there wouldn't have been a problem but the lunatics started yelling and excited the gorilla, who quickly pulled the kid out of potential danger. The kid is a goner. Some thug cop will blow him away in a few years because the cop "feared for his life". He was safer with the gorillas than he is with the humans. If the gorilla killed the kid people would be saying the zoo doesn't care about black people, gorilla lives matter more than black lives, so on and so forth. The mother of the kid may or may not have been negligent, who knows? I personally can't imagine my parents not noticing that I'm climbing into a gorilla pit but accidents happen and sometimes kids take stupid risks. It's tempting to blame the zoo because this little kid managed to get in a pit of gorillas and he only had to crawl through some bushes to get there. On the other hand I think zoos give some responsibility to families to take care of their kids and to not try to get in gorilla pits while at the zoo. And I also imagine it's good to see animals without bars and fences in the way just through open air so I'm guessing that's a reason to not have proper barricades around the enclosure, that's the only reason I can think of. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. 
The kid was injured, he has a concussion. That's not minor, even, especially for a kid.
Can you imagine, this will mess him up for life. Head injury plus he'll be that kid that got the beautiful gorilla killed. Poor kid.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 8:21 pm
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(June 1, 2016 at 4:59 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(June 1, 2016 at 4:48 pm)abaris Wrote: You know I always found that kind of preposterous. There are thousands dying in freak accidents, thousands dying of other avoidable causes, but god was there to save this one precious child. Precious to these persons, insignificant to anyone else. I mean, how special can you feel in your own existence? That depends. Maybe if you've had the god who invented cancer trying to steal your son's father you might have a different perspective? Maybe if your child were one of the 275,000 killed in the 04 tsunami you might have a different view? We're getting to the Problem of Evil, which is very near to me and my loss of faith. At the very best, your god may be described as indifferent ... at the very best. Your god is alleged to be perfectly moral. What is the purpose of thanking him for not being an asshole? That kinda comes with the territory of being perfectly moral. For this mother to first thank god and ignore the personnel on site, only to correct her oversight later after public correction, reveals a terribly shallow spirituality, one that asks "What can my god do for me?" but obviously doesn't care to examine the inner workings of the god she worships -- nor accredit the good humans who saved her son's life until her oversight was pointed out.
Someone should start a boycott of the zoo.
 (June 1, 2016 at 4:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry I keep harping on this, it just seems like you and IATI were back tracking some when I pointed it out and it makes me looks stupid for bringing it up at all. I did not backtrack on anything, but now that we are here; What exactly was she thanking god for? Allowing her to be negligent? Allowing the kid to peruse the barricade? Allowing the kid to tumble 10 feet? All without notice? Allowing the zoo to have a loophole in the barricade designed to keep the gorilla in? Allowing the gorilla to notice the kid was there? Allowing the gorilla to drag the kid around? Allowing the zoo keepers to take a majestic life? Yeah, I can see that. Thank fucking god for all the above. Oh wait, "ESPECIALLY" thank fucking god for all the above. And you know what? I think I will back track now. That mother is a fucking douche bag and should be held accountable and thank her fucking god that she is not in jail. One of the 'perks' of the religious, fuck up anyway you want and just "thank god" and everything is okay now.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy
And another thing. Anyone know why this majestic creature was crammed into a tiny hole in the wall when it should have been out roaming 16 square miles of forest?
Huh? Anyone? Because of intruders killing them off and taking their land.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy |
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