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I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
(July 25, 2016 at 11:26 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Thankfully, that's not a choice we face with refugees......even if it is the forced narrative.  Fact is, there's nothing to suggest that refugees would make us less safe, regardless of how unsafe we feel about it, for whatever reason.

Granted that his premise is highly doubtful, I'm just arguing the point on his terms. It weakens me not to do so in so doing; if he can argue from feelings, so can we all. And those are mine.

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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
(July 26, 2016 at 12:33 am)wallym Wrote:
(July 25, 2016 at 8:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Because of the need to placate people like you, trapped in a prism of fear manufactured by others, I'm guessing.  We didn't vet those 800k se asians despite being engaged in or recently having been at war with them.  It's not as if there's anything to indicate that they're actually terrorists, or that they pose a greater risk than domestics..now is there?  

So you're saying the US Government goes through an 18 month vetting process for 70k refugees a year for show?  Is that something you really believe?  

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideas...SKCN0VC2SX


Michael McCaul, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives Homeland Security Committee, said at a hearing that authorities have identified about 40 violent militants who had attempted to enter Europe posing as refugees.

Also article says US has rejected 30 refugees thus far, and likely more will be rejected.

[url= http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/5554...e-Refugees]
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees[/url]

(Obviously, questionable source, but the idea is not lost on them, clearly)

Washington Post article behind paywall:

SALZBURG, Austria — On a crisp morning last October, 198 migrants arrived on the Greek island of Leros, all of them seemingly desperate people seeking sanctuary in Europe. But hiding among them were four men with a very different agenda.

The four were posing as war-weary Syrians — all carrying doctored passports with false identities. And they were on a deadly mission for the Islamic State.
Two of the four would masquerade as migrants all the way to Paris. There, at 9:20 p.m. on Nov. 13, they would detonate suicide vests near the Stade de France sports complex, fulfilling their part in the worst attack on French soil since World War II.
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Wait, first you advocate for screening, then you complain about it working?

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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
(July 26, 2016 at 12:33 am)wallym Wrote: SALZBURG, Austria — On a crisp morning last October, 198 migrants arrived on the Greek island of Leros, all of them seemingly desperate people seeking sanctuary in Europe. But hiding among them were four men with a very different agenda.

The four were posing as war-weary Syrians — all carrying doctored passports with false identities. And they were on a deadly mission for the Islamic State.
Two of the four would masquerade as migrants all the way to Paris. There, at 9:20 p.m. on Nov. 13, they would detonate suicide vests near the Stade de France sports complex, fulfilling their part in the worst attack on French soil since World War II.
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And your problem is, other than they got them? Being nearly at ground zero, so to speak, when we're talking about Salzburg, I remember the story differently. They caught people having doctored passports, but there was nothing on them being on a mission. They caught a lot of people not being who they said they are. That's why our police employs interpreters knowing the different arabic dialects from each other, and most of all, knowing the regions, since they originally came from there. So they can ask questions about particular life styles, customs and the layout of the land to determine if the particular refugee really came from where he claims to have come.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
(July 26, 2016 at 3:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 25, 2016 at 8:26 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I fear spiders more than I do terrorism.

Great.  Now I'm going to have nightmares about either:  a) terroristic spiders or b) weaponized spiders used by terrorists.

Thank you very fucking much.

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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
(July 26, 2016 at 4:53 am)abaris Wrote:
(July 26, 2016 at 12:33 am)wallym Wrote: SALZBURG, Austria — On a crisp morning last October, 198 migrants arrived on the Greek island of Leros, all of them seemingly desperate people seeking sanctuary in Europe. But hiding among them were four men with a very different agenda.

The four were posing as war-weary Syrians — all carrying doctored passports with false identities. And they were on a deadly mission for the Islamic State.
Two of the four would masquerade as migrants all the way to Paris. There, at 9:20 p.m. on Nov. 13, they would detonate suicide vests near the Stade de France sports complex, fulfilling their part in the worst attack on French soil since World War II.
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And your problem is, other than they got them? Being nearly at ground zero, so to speak, when we're talking about Salzburg, I remember the story differently. They caught people having doctored passports, but there was nothing on them being on a mission. They caught a lot of people not being who they said they are. That's why our police employs interpreters knowing the different arabic dialects from each other, and most of all, knowing the regions, since they originally came from there. So they can ask questions about particular life styles, customs and the layout of the land to determine if the particular refugee really came from where he claims to have come.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsn...Paris.html

They sort of got themselves, when they blew themselves up.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
And what does that have to do with Salzburg?
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
(July 26, 2016 at 9:54 am)abaris Wrote: And what does that have to do with Salzburg?

I think you are misreading the original post?  4 people posing as Syrian's refugees (maybe some other designation).  They caught 2 of those 4 in Salzburg.  The other 2 made it to Paris, and set off suicide bombs.

The point was that 1) terrorists are blending in with refugees. 2) they've slipped through screenings and killed people.
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