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Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 2:32 pm
I would expect such a level of stupidity from brainwashed believers but not from other atheists who should know better that nature shouldn't be taken lightly. They keep denying the obvious - the proverbial great flood which the believers blame on god - they say it never happened. Given the recorded history of deadly storms, I think it did happen but it was a localized event for which reason no other religion mentioned it. Which also proves it wasn't "god's" deed, it was simply a bad and powerful storm. If it were god's deed, he would flood the whole world and all religions would mention it.
Needless to say that I was immediately claimed as a believer just because I refused to underestimate nature. Seriously, I was expecting more thinking capabilities from atheists...
Here's some evidence heavy storms did happen and will continue to happen:
http://m.ranker.com/list/10-biggest-dead...G5zw_FdQ.8
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 2:41 pm
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.....?
If you're talking about a really big storm, that washed away a pig shed and a couple chickens.....then you're not discussing the Deluge at all, now are you?
No..it never happened, and could not have happened. No one else mentioned it...because it never happened. Nevertheless, deluge stories are common the world over, no one else ever seems to notice when these world flooding storms hit - and often enough there's absolutely no evidence for any storm or flood of any apprecable size to be even jokingly granted plausible origin status for any given regional story. Not a huge surprise, we're still imaginative like this. One crack of thunder and people start looking around like it's the end of the world.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 2:45 pm
I thought most people did believe that the flood myth arose because of localized floods. Hell, I think the region they were in is called the flood plains. That's not much of a stretch.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 2:49 pm
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It's still a hell of a stretch. A flood plain is not a bowl, the earth is porous, the sky can only contain so much water before the pressure beneath becomes the equivalent of a sustained explosion. The authors of these stories couldn;t have known any of that, ofc...not because they didn't have our modern tools...but because they'd never seem a storm even a fraction as large as the ones as they wrote into their fairy tales. They just assumed that "a whole lotta rain" would pile up just like trickling rain does, and it made a good setting for an adventure story.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 2:52 pm
(August 17, 2016 at 2:45 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I thought most people did believe that the flood myth arose because of localized floods. Hell, I think the region they were in is called the flood plains. That's not much of a stretch.
Lowland areas flood, even catastrophically, that's a given. Hell, you could practically set your sundial by the annual Nile floods.
What there isn't evidence of is a civilization-ending deluge. When we start talking about regional floods, we aren't talking about the same thing as what the fundy literalists are talking about.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 3:02 pm
(August 17, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Rhythm Wrote: .....?
If you're talking about a really big storm, that washed away a pig shed and a couple chickens.....then you're not discussing the Deluge at all, now are you?
No..it never happened, and could not have happened. No one else mentioned it...because it never happened. Nevertheless, deluge stories are common the world over, no one else ever seems to notice when these world flooding storms hit - and often enough there's absolutely no evidence for any storm or flood of any apprecable size to be even jokingly granted plausible origin status for any given regional story. Not a huge surprise, we're still imaginative like this. One crack of thunder and people start looking around like it's the end of the world.
Following your logic, that means the devastating quake in Japan a few years ago didn't happen either, despite all the dead. Cuz quakes are force of nature too. So, just because you didn't see or feel it, it never happened? Are you serious? I'm not saying that great flood was done by an imaginary deity, I'm just saying it was a localized storm event which looked like god's work in their primitive eyes because they were too stupid to understand god had nothing to do with it.
Or, going the same way of your logic, I suppose the 7.2 quake that hit my hometown in the 70's didn't happen either, because we weren't there to see it. Despite the thousands of people who felt it and still remember it.
Just because you don't know of storms happening that doesn't mean they don't. Just Google for deadly storms in the last 100 years and you'll see. Or even better - browse weather channels site (weather.com, I think) - it's full of recorded storms on cam, even storms that can cause flood.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 3:06 pm
Uh... Atheist_BG, I think you're kind of entirely misunderstanding what Rhythm's saying.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 3:13 pm
(August 17, 2016 at 3:06 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Uh... Atheist_BG, I think you're kind of entirely misunderstanding what Rhythm's saying.
I did understand him quite well. Just read again the first three sentences of his second paragraph. "never happened" and so on.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 3:14 pm
(August 17, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote: (August 17, 2016 at 3:06 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Uh... Atheist_BG, I think you're kind of entirely misunderstanding what Rhythm's saying.
I did understand him quite well. Just read again the first three sentences of his second paragraph. "never happened" and so on.
Yes...he's referring to the Flood..the big, worldwide, ark-worthy god-flood. That most certainly never happened.
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RE: Unexpected level of stupidity
August 17, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Quote:Given the recorded history of deadly storms, I think it did happen but it was a localized event for which reason no other religion mentioned it.
But that isn't what they claim, is it?
https://www.icr.org/article/842/
Quote:On the other hand, "young-earth creationists" accept the Biblical record of the Flood as a literal record of a tremendous cataclysm involving not only a worldwide Flood, but also great tectonic upheavals and volcanic outpourings that completely changed the crust of the earth and its topography in the days of Noah.
BTW, the fucking bible doesn't say anything about tectonic upheavals and/or volcanic outpourings... neither of which would have been known to the primitive goatfuckers who wrote that bullshit.
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