Posts: 1446
Threads: 77
Joined: October 1, 2008
Reputation:
11
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 4, 2011 at 6:54 pm
(June 4, 2011 at 6:50 pm)tackattack Wrote: Why is it a stupid question? Having a creativity lapse or just don't like thinking outside the box?
It is plainly stupid to ask those who don't believe in something to then describe it.
And stuff your thinking outside the box up your...
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
Posts: 4446
Threads: 87
Joined: December 2, 2009
Reputation:
47
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 4, 2011 at 6:57 pm
methinks I touched a nerve... I agree it's a fruitless exercise. But it is a mental exercise and that at least holds some value. I'm curious for the deist answer.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
Posts: 1446
Threads: 77
Joined: October 1, 2008
Reputation:
11
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 4, 2011 at 7:00 pm
(June 4, 2011 at 6:57 pm)tackattack Wrote: methinks I touched a nerve... I agree it's a fruitless exercise. But it is a mental exercise and that at least holds some value. I'm curious for the deist answer.
What deist answer?
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation:
92
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 4, 2011 at 7:04 pm
The only God I could imagine is one who is simply a creator and never has anything to do with existence after that for whatever reason.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Posts: 15755
Threads: 194
Joined: May 15, 2009
Reputation:
145
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 4, 2011 at 7:05 pm
(June 4, 2011 at 6:45 pm)tackattack Wrote: I think he's just trying to say, if you could envision a god existing, what would be it's attributes.
Ahhh, that's better
He would be just like Larry
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
259
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 4, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Quote:I agree it's a fruitless exercise.
Much as is praying.
Posts: 88
Threads: 18
Joined: June 1, 2011
Reputation:
0
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 4, 2011 at 9:03 pm
I can give you answer to question of what has tested my faith. And one of the things is animals eating animals while they are still alive out in the wild. I thought why would God make it so. I thought that human cruelty is a matter of choice hence the free will , so you have to have it but why this? Why make ants and other insects that we walk on at times? These are some of the things that in past have tested my faith. Thanks
Posts: 5389
Threads: 52
Joined: January 3, 2010
Reputation:
48
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 5, 2011 at 1:41 am
(June 4, 2011 at 6:54 pm)bozo Wrote: (June 4, 2011 at 6:50 pm)tackattack Wrote: Why is it a stupid question? Having a creativity lapse or just don't like thinking outside the box?
It is plainly stupid to ask those who don't believe in something to then describe it.
And stuff your thinking outside the box up your...
If asked, could you describe a dragon? I would say yes, most people can.
But do you believe in them? Most likely no.
As to the OP, Since the universe is old beyond our imagining and vast beyond our comprehension a(theoretical) intelligent first cause would similarly be far beyond our ability to understand or perceive.
So even if there is a IFC(or, if you prefer, god) it is exceedingly unlikely that it knows or cares about us.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
Posts: 12512
Threads: 202
Joined: January 3, 2010
Reputation:
107
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 5, 2011 at 1:51 am
(June 4, 2011 at 6:14 pm)Pel Wrote: This is a question for atheists, deists and such. If you were to be asked what is God like and why in case he existed what would you say? The answer should be based on your observation and reflection of everything that has surounded you. Also try to look into your emotions. Thanks
There is no god as set down by any man made relgion for the past 6,000 years. end of story.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
Posts: 99
Threads: 7
Joined: June 3, 2011
Reputation:
2
RE: Question for freethinkers
June 5, 2011 at 2:49 am
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2011 at 3:00 am by eric209.)
It appears you are not exactly clear on what athiesm means. I'm not sure what your trying to say. It would be maybe better asked if you asked us how we would invent a God or superhero even. I think your question would be better answered by a pastafarian.
(June 4, 2011 at 9:03 pm)Pel Wrote: I can give you answer to question of what has tested my faith. And one of the things is animals eating animals while they are still alive out in the wild. I thought why would God make it so. I thought that human cruelty is a matter of choice hence the free will , so you have to have it but why this? Why make ants and other insects that we walk on at times? These are some of the things that in past have tested my faith. Thanks
I would suggest to you to understand how basic microbes eat other microbes which are eaten by larger creatures and then larger all the way up the foodchain to an apex predator. It has nothing to do with a Creator but simple economics. The species that adapted to eat other life instead of foraging all day has more time for mating and rearing young.
|