U.S. 2016: For whom will you vote?

[Ravenshire]

Voting for someone who won't win isn't a wasted vote. The point of elections isn't to vote for the person who will win or might win, but rather for the candidate who you think will be the best president.

Don't let people bully you into voting for Clinton or Trump if you don't like either of them. If there is a candidate in your area who you think would do a better job, vote for them. Or write someone in.

I will likely write in "none of the above" because there are none that I think can do the job.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I actually think it's funny that anyone thinks that Trump is worse than Clinton. But that's my biased opinion as an outsider. In one respect they are each as bad as the other, but I think the pars that delineates them clearly are these:

• Hillary is more willing to lie outright about her true intentions/policies than Trump is.
  
• Hillary is already a corrupt politician. When Obama ran against Hillary in 2008 he said that she was too corrupt to be president.
  
• She's a more polished politician - she knows how to speak in public to spin stuff her way, Trump doesn't.
  

That's probably because you haven't thought about his domestic positions and Supreme Court nominations.

Now, let's address your "points" one at a time:

1) If you don't think Trump lies about his positions, you're not paying attention. He's been caught publicly in lies, and denies his own contradictions -- which is itself anther lie.

2) A man as motivated by money as Trump is -- to the point that even as a presidential candidate, he brags of dodging his on tax burden, in a Presidential debate -- is a man who values money more than obligation, which is, you know, kinda the definition of corrupt.

3) Anyone who is not smart enough to present his ideas palatably is probably not someone able to to sell others -- including foreign heads-of-state -- on those ideas.

Now, you can rub your hands and hope for four years' worth of trolling material ... or you can actually start thinking.

I know how I'll bet on that. You've never struck me a terribly thoughtful; this post of yours only reinforces my opinion that you're pretty much a dumbfuck.

[Whateverist]

Hillary because at the end of the day sanity matters more than bullshit when the nuclear codes are involved.

And how about a little preparedness and competence?  I like those a lot.  We all know Gary Johnson is only in his element if the event entails making faces.

[Whateverist]

I will vote for Johnson again. My vote gives support to a political philosophy that is growing internationally. Not a waste at all.

Yeah, who knows if they get a few more votes maybe they can get a halfway qualified person to run next time.  Long view.

[Whateverist]

When will you be able to vote?

I can apply for citizenship in 2 years. Not sure how long the process takes but after that I can vote.

How's the English coming along?

[Whateverist]

Trump is on tape bragging about how he can get away with grabbing women's genitalia and can grope and kiss women without their permission because his is rich and powerful.

Correct, and that is absolutely nothing compared to the crimes the USA committed against Cuba. Even if he was a child molester to rival Jimmy Savile, that is still nothing in comparison to that crime. Let alone the fuelling of civil wars in the Middle East by continually arming terrorists, and destabilising sovereign states.

Weird.

[Thumpalumpacus]

They're both guilty of fraud and corruption. The sexual allegations against Trump are troubling, if they are true. But some of them - such as simply soliciting sex - have nothing to do with being a "predator".

I'd call anyone who grabs women "by the pussy" without consent to be predatory.

Clearly, you have a different metric.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Ok, professor.

Right let me re-state what I said earlier. They're each as bad as each other.

Yes, because lying is as bad as sexual assault.

You're pretty new to this thinking stuff, aren't you?

[Minimalist]

I will vote for Johnson again. My vote gives support to a political philosophy that is growing internationally. Not a waste at all.

Yeah, who knows if they get a few more votes maybe they can get a halfway qualified person to run next time.  Long view.

Ha!  They got "halfway" this time.  Did you see those libertarian jerks?

[Aractus]

Right again, I will assume Trump is guilty of sexual assault - grabbing women by the pussy, groping them, etc. That crime is nothing in comparison to the war crimes that Clinton has been a part of. Yes it's a crime, and probably both he and Clinton deserve to be in prison. I'm not suggesting for a second that either one of them is fit to be elected into a position of power. All I'm saying is that Clinton is worse because her crimes are on a scale far greater than Trump's crimes.

And I don't take Trump's crimes lightly either - I think for his fraudulent business practises (I'm thinking of Trump University here) he should be imprisoned for about 10 years or so for that crime. But war crimes deserve life imprisonment, and I believe wholeheartedly that Bill Clinton, George W, Dick Cheney, Obama, Hillary, and no doubt many others, should be convicted for war crimes - just like Germany has been doing to WWII war criminals. That also includes Tony Blair, and John Howard should at the very least face criminal proceedings to find out if he committed a war crime or not. I suspect he did, but I'm convinced all those other assholes did.

I would love to see Russia, China, and India form an alliance to disarm the United States of their Nuclear weapons. Someone needs to put a fucking stop to the world's leading terror state, sooner rather than later.