A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"

[Edwardo Piet]

I get that you guys are pro choice but honestly all these jokes about abortion are disgusting. Makes me feel sick to my stomach.

So don't read them.

And personally, to myself at least, subjectively, I think that when people get offended at an abortion of a bunch of cells it just makes the jokes all the more funny.

Anyone who thinks that I I'm wrong to personally subjectively find that extra hilarious is impersonally objectively wrong to criticise me for it /sarcasm

[Edwardo Piet]

Oh don't get me wrong, it's your right to say "I don't like jokes like that" or "I am offended", and it's my right to call you a complete pussy.

Exactly right.

Stephen Fry, like George Carlin, is another god (a Britishian god!) and this quote by him demonstrates how EP is objectively wrong (and I'm being super cereal about this):

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

[I saw hate in a graveyard -- Stephen Fry, The Guardian, 5 June 2005]”

I'm Super. Duper. Cereal.

[Edwardo Piet]

Oh don't get me wrong, it's your right to say "I don't like jokes like that" or "I am offended", and it's my right to call you a complete pussy.

Let me get this straight , are you ?

No, but you are. She doesn't get offended by abortions; you do.

Not being offended by abortions makes Bella a pussy? Makes perfect sense... and I'm being super, duper duper pooper-scooper hyper-turbo-ultra-mega cereal this time.

[account_inactive]

Oh don't get me wrong, it's your right to say "I don't like jokes like that" or "I am offended", and it's my right to call you a complete pussy.

Let me get this straight , are you ?

A pussy?

Perhaps, but at least I don't get triggered by fucking abortions.

Fucking.

Abortions.

[Edwardo Piet]

Worst sex I never had.

[account_inactive]

[Edwardo Piet]

I thought that might amuse you.

[Crossless2.0]

So I suppose dead baby jokes are out of the question?

[Joods]

Well it looks like we will now have an ONI living in the white house for the next four years.

[Drich]

Meh. I'm not likely to be convinced that if any of the popular members here said similar shit that Drich says, but said it about undesirables, anyone (apart from maybe CL) would bat an eye. The problem people have with Drich is that he says it directly to members of the forum who are popular. Well, that and he says a lot of shit that doesn't make any sense. Any one of us could (and lots likely have) say any old fucked up thing to Drich and it would be business as usual. Drich could say, "Fuck a goat, you stupid slut." to one of our female members and the white knights would rain down from the proverbial heavens. I could say, "Drich, I hope a goat rapes you in the bum." and you'd be lying if you said you would decry my behavior in anywhere near a similar way. Why? Because you don't like Drich. It's a bias. It can be completely natural or even morally correct, but it's still a bias. To deny it just plain silly.

Neither fully disagree nor full agree. But overall, Drich says nasty shit on a regular basis, rationalizes them, acts like a victim in the process, is condescending, and has a Messianic complex, thinking he's God's gift to all. So it's a combination of many uglies that Drich displays here. And I've yet to note such degree of uglies from any of the popular members here. Maybe that's why they're popular.

or...

Maybe because they are popular.. the 'uglies' are not ugly.

For example an atheist would point out God is a monster because he order the death of babies in All of the OT..
In return a theist may point out that abortion has killed over 1.5 billion since Roe v wade. (1973)

The act of taking an infant's life is the same, but because one form of taking life is popular. Meaning it is fine that we kill babies by the billions not knowing if we are killing they guy who invents free renewable clean energy for everyone or if we are killing a hitler, And somehow a good thing.. Meanwhile God ordering the death of a race of 'hitlers' is a bad thing.

Again I think the point Shelby is making how you view an ugly is based on what you perceive is the popular view.

The act of killing babies is not up for debate as both sides can find reason to do it. What is up for debate is the legitimacy that one side or the other has the authority to make that call.