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America Great again!
RE: America Great again!
(November 9, 2016 at 2:04 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So, we have room for people in NZ and Oz.

Judging by Trump's comments over the years he won't make America great, just less educated and more ignorant.


.. and deunionized and poorer.  But thanks for the offer.  How many boatloads can we count on you for?
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RE: America Great again!
(November 9, 2016 at 10:58 am)Mathilda Wrote: Talking of which, I bet Trump doesn't know how the US owes so much debt to China that it can call the shots. I'm not sure Trump will enjoy having to placate their demands.

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-debt-to-c...wn-3306355

Quote:China's position as America's largest banker gives it some political leverage. Now and then, China threatens to sell part of its debt holdings. It knows that, if it did so, U.S. interest rates would rise, which would slow U.S economic growth.  China often calls for a new global currency to replace the dollar, which is used in most international transactions. China does this whenever the U.S. allows the value of the dollar to drop, which makes the debt China holds less valuable.

Holy crap. China has America's balls in a vice.
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RE: America Great again!
Maybe Trump's plans to make America Great will go the way of his plans to make Bridgeport Connecticut great.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/26...verbruggen
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: America Great again!
Just saw this on Twitter:

When all the non-racist, non-misogynist, non-homophobic, non-bigoted, everyday ordinary people get sick of you calling them racists, misogynists, homophobes, and bigots that they go out and vote against your candidate, do you:

A. Reevaluate your personal conduct and strategy of convincing people to share your politics?

Or

B. Call them racists, misogynists, homophobes, and bigots and yell at them even more?

Looks like it's going to be B.
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RE: America Great again!
(November 9, 2016 at 11:22 am)alpha male Wrote:
(November 9, 2016 at 10:44 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don't know what that means.

I know you don't, and that's part of the problem.

You presumably disagree with most Trump voters on, for example, immigration.

If you thought along the lines, I disagree with them, but I can understand where they're coming from and empathize with them to a degree, then you'd have a chance of winning them over.

If you just write them off as stupid and/or evil, you'll never reach them.

I have the opposite view. Not about all of those people but about many of them.

When it comes to stupidity... well, it's very hard to underestimate how stupid people can be.

Wikipedia Wrote:Carlo Maria Cipolla, an economic historian, is famous for his essays about human stupidity, such as "The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity". He viewed stupid people as a group, more powerful by far than major organizations such as the Mafia and the industrial complex, which without regulations, leaders or manifesto nonetheless manages to operate to great effect and with incredible coordination.

These are Cipolla's five fundamental laws of stupidity:

1. Always and inevitably each of us underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
2. The probability that a given person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic possessed by that person.
3. A person is stupid if they cause damage to another person or group of people without experiencing personal gain, or even worse causing damage to themselves in the process.
4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the harmful potential of stupid people; they constantly forget that at any time anywhere, and in any circumstance, dealing with or associating themselves with stupid individuals invariably constitutes a costly error.

5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person there is.

Intentional stupidity cannot be convinced or won over. We need to make sure we don't waste our time trying to convince the unconvinceable and instead try to convince the undecided voters, that's what we need to do.
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RE: America Great again!
(November 9, 2016 at 2:13 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(November 9, 2016 at 2:04 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So, we have room for people in NZ and Oz.

Judging by Trump's comments over the years he won't make America great, just less educated and more ignorant.


.. and deunionized and poorer.  But thanks for the offer.  How many boatloads can we count on you for?

Don't come by boat.  That will get you perma banned in Oz.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: America Great again!
(November 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm)alpha male Wrote: Just saw this on Twitter:

When all the non-racist, non-misogynist, non-homophobic, non-bigoted, everyday ordinary people get sick of you calling them racists, misogynists, homophobes, and bigots that they go out and vote against your candidate, do you:

A. Reevaluate your personal conduct and strategy of convincing people to share your politics?

Or

B. Call them racists, misogynists, homophobes, and bigots and yell at them even more?


B, obviously.  How can they do better if I don't revile them?
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RE: America Great again!
I think letting the undecided and uninformed voters know who they shouldn't vote for is the important thing. And calling out the bigots, and calling a spade a spade, is one way of doing that.
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RE: America Great again!
(November 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm)alpha male Wrote: Just saw this on Twitter:

When all the non-racist, non-misogynist, non-homophobic, non-bigoted, everyday ordinary people get sick of you calling them racists, misogynists, homophobes, and bigots that they go out and vote against your candidate, do you:

A. Reevaluate your personal conduct and strategy of convincing people to share your politics?

Or

B. Call them racists, misogynists, homophobes, and bigots and yell at them even more?

Looks like it's going to be B.

Most bigots don't consider themselves bigots.  But if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck.. you call it a fucking duck.
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RE: America Great again!
(November 9, 2016 at 1:50 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(November 9, 2016 at 7:00 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: I hope we can all get behind the new President and support him in his efforts to make America great again.  Give him a chance people, He may just surprise you.


Hilliary agrees with you.
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They all work for the same company.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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