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Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
#31
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
Hmmmn ... that is interesting. Might we say, then, that the only true believer IS a dead one?
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#32
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
This is a silly thing to debate. There is no evidence to suggest that life continues in any manner after physical death, so there is absolutely no reason believe that it does. You can imagine that it might, or pretend that it does, or toss around conjecture on how it's possible... but to believe that it actually does is just... utterly baseless.
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#33
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
(July 14, 2011 at 3:26 pm)xonage Wrote: The common theme I see here is "burden of proof" and "an afterlife has no evidence so dont believe in it." But why then firmly believe in no afterlife, if there is no evidence for it. You guys have it a little mixed up. The burden of proof lies on the one making a claim.

Don't you mean lack of belief in an afterlife? Also there is no evidence for an afterlife!
No claim has been made, merely stating what has been observed. We can observe and measure life and brain activity, and we have observed life and conciousness end. We have no evidence or reason to assume conciousness continues at all. Why? Do you have evidence that it does?

Biological life forms die, that's what they do. Death is the end of biological function, that's it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#34
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
(July 14, 2011 at 3:47 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Hmmmn ... that is interesting. Might we say, then, that the only true believer IS a dead one?



Certainly the only good believer is a dead one.
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#35
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
(July 14, 2011 at 3:26 pm)xonage Wrote: The common theme I see here is "burden of proof" and "an afterlife has no evidence so dont believe in it." But why then firmly believe in no afterlife, if there is no evidence for it. You guys have it a little mixed up. The burden of proof lies on the one making a claim. If you claim there is no life after death, the burden of proof would be on YOU.

You miss the point entirely. We DO have evidence to say what happens to us after death. Biologically our brains stop and cease to have consciousness. End of.

The crux of this argument is flawed anyway, how can you have life after death when the very premise of death is that there is no life? You either believe that we die, or
you don't. Now scientifically, WE DIE. Simple as.
When people say, "there is no afterlife", the burden of proof is not on them at all because the statement they are making is scientifically correct. Seen as there is nothing to suggest we have souls or that our consciousness lives on, how can it possibly be a positive claim to say that these things don't happen? We are merely asserting the scientific fact that we don't have souls nor do our consciousness's live on. Now that isn't to say that there DEFINITIVELY isn't some form of afterlife, but with the evidence we DO have, and the scientific analysis we can make of a human being after death etc, there is nothing at all to suggest even remotely that there is an afterlife. So tell me, why is the burden of proof on someone who says there is not an afterlife? Scientifically they are 100% correct with the current knowledge we have at this point in time.

Your line of logic would determine that because we have no evidence of a flying teacup orbitting mars, we should still keep an open mind about it. Well sorry mate but that's not how it works. Sure there could be a teacup orbitting mars, but given there is no evidence there is also no reason to believe it at all. Someone who simply asserts this has no burden of proof because they have nothing to prove.
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#36
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
Doing the Small Gods dance here. Nice post, Nap.
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#37
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
(July 14, 2011 at 4:37 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Doing the Small Gods dance here. Nice post, Nap.

There's a kudos button. Use it. Big Grin
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#38
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
Done, bastage.
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#39
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
(July 14, 2011 at 3:34 pm)Chuck Wrote: If 6 ounces do dematerialize into energy and depart, how does it depart? By the copiously confirmed E=MC^2 formula 6 ounces of mass = 3.5 Megatons of energy. Is the city surrounding the dying man leveled at the moment by the release of energy comparable in magnitude to the detonation of a large hydrogen bomb?

Study basic physics diligently and you too can raise yourself by your bootstraps out of the babbling spiritualist idiothood in which you appear to be stuck at the moment.

Six ounces is just a magic number. They have no clue if anything actually disappears, nor do they care, woo doesn't need no stinking badge.
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#40
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
Quote:I have heard we lose 6 onces at the moment of death.


That's piss running down your leg when your bladder lets loose.
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