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Testimony is Evidence
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Indeed one side has evidence . The other has mental masturbation . One side has out dated concepts . The other flows with modern findings.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb  (August 30, 2017 at 1:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: None of that makes "witness testimony" evidence. You;re looking for a solution as to when or if you accept witness testimony, but regardless of when or if you do or what line you draw it will still just be you -accepting- witness testimony. GB stated unequivocally in the post I was responding to that witness testimony is evidence--therefore I was not arguing that dead horse. RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 30, 2017 at 1:56 pm
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Can you determine, on the basis of my testimony alone, whether or not it would be rational to believe that I had a cheeseburger?
Walk us through the rational process, without exceeding the limits of the claim "I had a cheeseburger". Keep in mind, the moment you reference something exterior to those four words, you've made a liar of yourself. Good luck.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 30, 2017 at 2:02 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2017 at 2:04 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
That would be exterior to my "witness testimony". Next.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 30, 2017 at 2:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That would be exterior to my "witness testimony". Next. It's simple they can't .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb 
What if I prefaced it with, "everything that comes out of Khemikal's mouth is divine and inerrant."
Would that help with the decision-making process? 😉
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
It would certainly help to get the religious throwing money at my face, if history is any indicator.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 30, 2017 at 4:07 pm
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(August 30, 2017 at 2:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That would be exterior to my "witness testimony". Next. I see. Then all you're doing is setting up a straw man by saying that the person doing the testifying has nothing to do with the testimony he or she gives. It's like saying people cannot consider the author's intent when reading a book. RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 30, 2017 at 4:52 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2017 at 5:59 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(August 30, 2017 at 1:37 pm)SteveII Wrote:(August 29, 2017 at 11:37 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Well, I've supplied evidence for my stance. Perhaps you could do the same? Not a logical argument as you so love to do, but actual evidence. This conclusion is completely circular and meaningless. You're essentially saying: 1. Witness testimony is wrong sometimes 2. We don't know when it will be wrong 3. Therefore, we must be careful not to accept wrong testimony, and only accept correct testimony Your conclusion is just a re-stating of your premises, and to further its pointlessness, you offer no objective means of distinguishing between reliable/unreliable testimony as all your metrics are totally subjective: character, track record, etc., experience. Totally valid argument. You've essentially logically argued into existence that witness testimony is unreliable as a form of evidence, lol. Thanks! 😁
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