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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 4, 2017 at 9:18 pm
(October 4, 2017 at 8:35 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Oh, you're a binary thinker.
It's not even the first time in this thread he's bullshitted about that but I can't be fussed to find what pages they're on. It was just fortuitous that he happened to do it within the same page there.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 4, 2017 at 11:23 pm
(October 4, 2017 at 7:49 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: (October 4, 2017 at 4:29 pm)Succubus Wrote: I wouldn't have thought it possible that I could read so much unmitigated shite in the space of two minutes.
I don't think it is dumbfounded because you haven't let me finished. Perhaps I need to further explain to get my point across. If there was a person who died and his name was "Good," then Good would still be there. He would just be a dead body. Our euphoria are like the life force to this dead man that would bring Good back to life. So, what I am saying here is that we need our euphoria. Otherwise, our lives would be completely empty. We would still have good value being believed in our minds during our miserable moments. But there would be no inner "life" to those words in our mind. Thus, our inner universe would be completely dead and empty for the time being until we reach a state of full recovery where we have our euphoria back to us again.
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Notice the key elements:
Pervasiveness - Sealions don't go away.
Pretense to politeness and sincerity - Sealions are just "asking nicely" but they are asking questions that have been asked and answered fully many times, and are unwilling to so much as open a tab to look up the answer, nor will they recognize the validity of your sources, your experience or expertise...
Fucking Sealions.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 4, 2017 at 11:29 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2017 at 11:30 pm by Astonished.)
Why sealions? Why not a less likeable animal? I look at that picture and I just want to hug that squishy fella.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 4, 2017 at 11:42 pm
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Other Person's Response: If you cannot see anything good or bad besides feeling good and feeling bad, then you might have a mental disability that prevents you from understanding values that go beyond our emotional states. I don't think there is anything wrong with those miserable geniuses who claimed good value in their lives and neither do I think they are delusional. I think there is something wrong with you.
My Reply: If the inner light can take on a different form besides euphoria, then I can see how there can be another form of good value in our lives. But if that isn't the case, then I just don't understand. They would just be living by words alone. I just don't see that as being any real good and beautiful life to live or to be an artist regardless of what goals you achieve and regardless of anything else. I mean, I do understand the whole idea of making choices. For example, I still understand the idea of making the choice to save the life of a loved one or to cease harm to someone regardless of what emotional state you are in. During my worst miserable moments, I still have made the choice to get the help I needed.
So, I do understand such choices. But what I do not understand is this idea that your life can have real good value during moments where you don't feel positive emotions and this idea that your life can have real bad value during moments where you don't feel negative emotions. But just so you know, even my own mother thinks there is something wrong with the idea of a miserable artist still having good value and beauty in his life. Especially ones who are suicidal. Suicidal depression and misery are claimed to be a source of inspiration for works of art and I, as well as my mother, see something wrong with this. Therefore, there really has to be something wrong with this whole value system because I just don't think there can be any real good value and beauty in the life of such an artist.
Other Person's Response: Your life is meaningless. If your only goal is to be in sort of blissful mental realm which you call the realm of the light and you don't adhere your life to any other values, then that is not much of a life at all.
My Reply: As long as I am in the worst miserable state of my life due to an emotional trauma, then I am in the realm of the darkness, so to speak. I need to be in the realm of the light and the only way that can happen is if I am fully recovered from such horrible moments. I actually disagree with your comment. I think the only way to a truly meaningful life is through positive emotions. Values based upon the thinking cortex are what we call the moral values while values based upon the emotional part of the brain are what we call the "wild values." Our thinking cortex is the modern part of our brain while the emotional part is the primitive and wild area of the brain. However, I think we as human beings have our true values rooted in our wild nature and that we have been mislead this whole entire time. Imagine a wild animal that was miserable.
It could not live by its wild, hedonistic nature since it could not feel any positive emotions. From there, this wild animal has to instead adhere its life to values that are futile. These are values that simply don't give this animal any real value in its life. This animal needs to fully recover from its miserable state so that it can obtain the true good value it needs in its life which would be through its positive emotions. The animal was meant for its wild, hedonistic nature and was not meant for these other empty values. With all of this being said, I am like the wild animal or the wild, exotic plant that needs to be in its proper environment (a hedonistic environment, in my case) where it can grow and thrive. I simply do not belong with a value system that is meaningless to me. That would be an environment where I would wither and fail.
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 4, 2017 at 11:59 pm
AAA-CHOOOO!
Sorry, all that straw set off my hayfever...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 5, 2017 at 12:08 am
Why the fuck equate emotions with this 'inner light' pigshit? Why not equate farts with smelly pixies while we're at it? Or piss with a magic fish that only dwells in urine?
I don't get the scam. I mean, this is dumb on a level below the lowest common denominator. Can't imagine who the fuck you're looking to make a buck off of.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 5, 2017 at 12:10 am
(October 5, 2017 at 12:08 am)Astonished Wrote: Why the fuck equate emotions with this 'inner light' pigshit? Why not equate farts with smelly pixies while we're at it? Or piss with a magic fish that only dwells in urine?
I don't get the scam. I mean, this is dumb on a level below the lowest common denominator. Can't imagine who the fuck you're looking to make a buck off of.
It was a great metaphor that described what my positive emotions are for me. Therefore, it was not just some random metaphor. I am also not trying to scam anybody and neither do I think my values are dumb. They are, for me, the most powerful and profound values I live by. This has been my own personal experience when saying that.
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 5, 2017 at 12:12 am
OP, let's grant for the moment that everything you say is completely true and represents reality.
What does it get you?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 5, 2017 at 12:12 am
Then seek psychiatric help. Now. Leave the forum, get some therapy and medication, and come back with something more intelligible to say.
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RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 5, 2017 at 12:17 am
(October 5, 2017 at 12:12 am)Cyberman Wrote: OP, let's grant for the moment that everything you say is completely true and represents reality.
What does it get you?
It means that people would now take much more consideration into my needs rather than dismissing them.
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