What is your opinion about Communism?

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

What? No North Korea?? Lol

What about North Korea? 🤔
I saw a video in which people of NK say it is nothing like what US say it is.
There is a joke that even the beggars in Cuba are about as fat as Americans.
Yes, NK doesn't tolerate opposing political beliefs but that's where it(it meaning how bad it is to live there) stops. I'll admit that's about as much as I know about it, if you know something extra share plz 😊

[Catholic_Lady]

What? No North Korea?? Lol

What about North Korea? 🤔
I saw a video in which people of NK say it is nothing like what US say it is.

This can be a start: https://waitbutwhy.com/2013/09/20-things...as-in.html

...but that's super light reading. If you really wanna know the ugliness of it, look into all the people Kim has killed.

[DLJ]

... which happens in all social systems.  Not exclusive to Communism.

So I'm thinking that perhaps what matters more is how those rights and freedoms are stripped or curtailed.  Correct?

Yeah. My rights are EXACTLY the same in the capitalist Democratic republic I currently reside as it would be in a communist state. You got me.

First "system", then "state". Please put the goalposts back when you've finished with them.

Cheers

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Uh. I still choose the US today over any communist state ever. Also countries around the world already have those things without having to starve their people or send them to camps.

Admittedly I've only spent 10 hours in the US so I don't know what it's like.

But I have been to another religion-dominated, open-carry country where tax money disappears into the coffers of the Military and politicians are bought and paid for. I enjoyed my time in Pakistan.

I have fond memories of both China and Vietnam. But that's mainly because of the girls.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Communism is fascism by another name.

I think I read somewhere that Communism always has a "National Enemy" and Fascism has a "Racial Enemy" so that when the citizenry's rights are taken away and their lives are miserable they blame the country or the race they're told is to blame for their problems.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

What about North Korea? 🤔
I saw a video in which people of NK say it is nothing like what US say it is.

This can be a start: https://waitbutwhy.com/2013/09/20-things...as-in.html

...but that's super light reading. If you really wanna know the ugliness of it, look into all the people Kim has killed.

C'mon CL... Look at some of the things in the article:

The leaders are a really big fucking deal there.

The same physical place can be fancy and shitty at the same time.

All kids wear the same uniform all the time, even when they’re not in school.

North Koreans seem to be lacking a sense of humor about the mausoleum that holds the bodies of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il.

Kim Jong Il used a MacBook Pro.

Most of the time people walked together, I swear they were walking in step.

Not having internet must be pretty crappy but it'd be a stretch to call it inhumane or anything.

but that's super light reading. If you really wanna know the ugliness of it, look into all the people Kim has killed.

This will probably sound pretty harsh and I don't support it either but the truth of the matter is it is very normal for higher ups in political power to kill their opposition or kill for political gain..Everybody does it, yes America does it as well, Cuba, Russia, does it as well, in fact it would be probably impossible to find a country without at least a couple thousand political deaths..but consider this, it is estimated that Fidel Castro that once ruled over Cuba has killed around 3000 people in his lifetime, the figure is probably overblown for shock effect but it's still probably around there somewhere. 3000 people in his lifetime...now, that's probably the amount of people that are killed by us drone strikes and deaths in conflict areas...in a single year..... If we're going to use "no of people killed" as a sort of scale to measure how evil people are then...

[WinterHold]

The whole government in a capitalist state is bought off by the way. It's not of the people, by the people, for the people..it's of the capitalists, by the capitalists, for the capitalists...

Lenin said:

We want to achieve a new and better order of society: in this new and better society there must be neither rich nor poor; all will have to work. Not a handful of rich people, but all the working people must enjoy the fruits of their common labour. Machines and other improvements must serve to ease the work of all and not to enable a few to grow rich at the expense of millions and tens of millions of people. This new and better society is called socialist society. The teachings about this society are called 'socialism'.

– Vladimir Lenin, "To the Rural Poor" (1903)

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Communism is about eliminating classes in society, and private ownership.
This means,  that ownership will be in the hands of "The holy majestic ruling party only". By that; Communism is nothing but a shortcut to make so many classes turn into 2 classes only: The slave and the Elite government henchman.

This way, Vladimair and Lucy might give birth to a cunt. Vladimair and Lucy both work in the government. Lucy's son grows up to be the cunt he is. Lucy's son rob the money of the working class. Nobody can talk to him, because it's a communist system: that is the system.. He stole because he the system gave him the chance.

To cover all that, epic songs are used to drug the slaves:

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The whole government in a capitalist state is bought off by the way. It's not of the people, by the people, for the people..it's of the capitalists, by the capitalists, for the capitalists...

That's the way it works out in any government. A few special interests get control of the government sub rosa.

[WinterHold]

The whole government in a capitalist state is bought off by the way. It's not of the people, by the people, for the people..it's of the capitalists, by the capitalists, for the capitalists...

That's the way it works out in any government. A few special interests get control of the government sub rosa.

Capitalism is assuring the private wealth to stay with its owner. Nobody has the right to envy those who got born wealthy; it's their destiny to be born wealthy. It's their right to hold their family heritage. Punishing and preventing robbing and stealing should be the main concern of anybody wanting economic justice. Communism is derived from the hatred of the poor working class to the rich owners, it's the revolution of the hungry. They should've punish thieves instead of punishing ANY wealthy individual.

A state like that is a sick state. A society without classes, is an unfair society. Utopia is impossible in this life; but punishing thieves and robbers is so possible.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That's the way it works out in any government. A few special interests get control of the government sub rosa.

Capitalism is assuring the private wealth to stay with its owner. Nobody has the right to envy those who got born wealthy; it's their destiny to be born wealthy. It's their right to hold their family heritage. Punishing and preventing robbing and stealing should be the main concern of anybody wanting economic justice. Communism is derived from the hatred of the poor working class to the rich owners, it's the revolution of the hungry. They should've punish thieves instead of punishing ANY wealthy individual.

A state like that is a sick state. A society without classes, is an unfair society. Utopia is impossible in this life; but punishing thieves and robbers is so possible.

Yep, like any other political system.

[WinterHold]

Capitalism is assuring the private wealth to stay with its owner. Nobody has the right to envy those who got born wealthy; it's their destiny to be born wealthy. It's their right to hold their family heritage. Punishing and preventing robbing and stealing should be the main concern of anybody wanting economic justice. Communism is derived from the hatred of the poor working class to the rich owners, it's the revolution of the hungry. They should've punish thieves instead of punishing ANY wealthy individual.

A state like that is a sick state. A society without classes, is an unfair society. Utopia is impossible in this life; but punishing thieves and robbers is so possible.

Yep, like any other political system.

No. Advocating dictatorship like Marx did is something, Capitalistic systems are something else.
Communism is beating the rich kid and taking all their cash out of jealousy, hate and insane dreams of utopia. That's why the soviet union fell and the U.S survived.

Muslims saw what soviets mean in wars. Afghanistan, Chechnya, the leftovers of Syria now, Egypt's army...etc.
Communism is hell. It means a rifle and a boot to your teeth, just for having money.

Not all political systems are punishing those who are born wealthy like communism does. Not all systems enforce atheism on its citizens (slaves). Not all systems shoot you for praying in public.

At least we can pray and talk under capitalism.