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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 4:31 pm
Hormone imbalance/deficinecy is a real thing, it isn't something I'm making up, if that's what you are wondering. There are medically standard, normal levels of sex hormones, and they can be checked with a simple blood test. I've had to get my levels checked multiple times for fertility treatments to be sure everything is working normal. Besides fertility, these hormones play an important role in sexual function, sex drive, energy level, mood, etc. And if something is not within normal range, like projesterone or testosterone, a person can take supplemental hormones to correct the levels. It's a real medical issue.
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I'm not saying asexuality is caused by a hormone problem, I'm just speculating the possibility of it.... just taking a guess. I could be totally wrong of course. But if it is that, you seem to be saying we shouldn't acknowledge it as such. That's where I disagree. It should be acknowledged bc hormone deficiency/imbalance is a medical issue and if someone has it, it may be something the person chooses to have corrected. I'm not saying they have to, or that they are immoral if they dont. It's entirely their choice.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 4:34 pm
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I know it's not something you're making up but I'm saying that there's nothing unhealthy about an absence of sex hormones and it's not a deficiency if you're an asexual. Obviously it's a problem if you're a sexual person who wants to have a sex drive and wants to have sex and wants to be fertile, but it's not a problem or a deficiency if you're an asexual person with no desire for sex.
I know you're speculating but I'm saying I don't see how it's even possible for true asexuality to be problematic or unhealthy. If someone really has no sex drive or desire for sex, then there's no problem. It's only a problem for sexual people who have lost their sex drive and want it back. As I said, all the arguments about asexuality being unhealthy seem to rely on the premise that asexuals aren't really asexual and that they do have a sex drive but they're denying it or they're sexphobic. If we're talking about someone genuinely having no sex drive, who was born with no sex drive and has no desire for a sex drive or interest in sex, then how can that be unhealthy or a problem? An absence is not a deficiency.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 4:38 pm
(November 25, 2017 at 4:34 pm)Hammy Wrote: I know it's not something you're making up but I'm saying that there's nothing unhealthy about an absence of sex hormones and it's not a deficiency if you're an asexual. Obviously it's a problem if you're a sexual person who wants to have a sex drive and wants to have sex and wants to be fertile, but it's not a problem or a deficiency if you're an asexual person with no desire for sex.
Yeah I don't know whether or not it's "unhealthy" per se. If it doesn't effect anything other than sex drive/attraction, than it probably isn't unhealthy. But it may effect more than that. I know at least in women, having too much estrogen to progesterone ratio can increase your risk of certain cancers.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 4:40 pm
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If asexuality was caused by some other problem that was harmful then that could be unhealthy, but asexuality itself isn't unhealthy.
Hell, I sometimes think I'd be more healthy if I was asexual because my drive is rather over the top 
If I could flip a switch and become asexual I think that a lot of the time I would flip that switch. In fact I'd say that any time that I'm not enjoying sex (which is the vast, vast majority of the time, regardless of my joking around) I would flip that switch
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 4:43 pm
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(November 25, 2017 at 4:40 pm)Hammy Wrote: If asexuality was caused by some other problem that was harmful then that could be unhealthy, but asexuality itself isn't unhealthy.
Oh i agree with that. Nothing unhealthy about not having sex and not being attracted to anyone.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 4:45 pm
(November 25, 2017 at 4:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 25, 2017 at 4:40 pm)Hammy Wrote: If asexuality was caused by some other problem that was harmful then that could be unhealthy, but asexuality itself isn't unhealthy.
Oh i agree with that. Nothing unhealthy about not having sex and not being attracted to anyone.
I mean, I never really thought that you thought asexuality itself was abnormal or unhealthy, remember. I just took issue with some of the words you were using, even though I know what you meant by them, because I think what you were saying was technically incorrect and could be misunderstood.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 7:28 pm
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(November 25, 2017 at 3:52 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I can't help remenbering a quote from a terrible movie I saw years ago.
Can't remember the movie but the quote went;
"He's trisexual!"
"TRIsexual?"
"Yeah. He'll try anything. Dogs, chickens, mud..."
Cheech and Chong's, "The Corsican Brothers." 
Not their best movie.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 8:04 pm
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(November 25, 2017 at 4:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 25, 2017 at 4:40 pm)Hammy Wrote: If asexuality was caused by some other problem that was harmful then that could be unhealthy, but asexuality itself isn't unhealthy.
Oh i agree with that. Nothing unhealthy about not having sex and not being attracted to anyone.
Um........ actually there might be........... unless DIY.
https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/ne...n-prostate
Edit: I gave another link that was more up to date but then realized most of you won't be able to access.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 8:07 pm
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1. The jury's still out on whether not masturbating can cause prostate cancer in men.
2. Asexuals can masturbate.
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RE: A question for the ladies of AF
November 25, 2017 at 8:59 pm
(November 25, 2017 at 4:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hormone imbalance/deficinecy is a real thing, it isn't something I'm making up, if that's what you are wondering. There are medically standard, normal levels of sex hormones, and they can be checked with a simple blood test. I've had to get my levels checked multiple times for fertility treatments to be sure everything is working normal. Besides fertility, these hormones play an important role in sexual function, sex drive, energy level, mood, etc. And if something is not within normal range, like projesterone or testosterone, a person can take supplemental hormones to correct the levels. It's a real medical issue.
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I'm not saying asexuality is caused by a hormone problem, I'm just speculating the possibility of it.... just taking a guess. I could be totally wrong of course. But if it is that, you seem to be saying we shouldn't acknowledge it as such. That's where I disagree. It should be acknowledged bc hormone deficiency/imbalance is a medical issue and if someone has it, it may be something the person chooses to have corrected. I'm not saying they have to, or that they are immoral if they dont. It's entirely their choice.
I have to agree with CL on this one. Disinterest in sex doesn't have to be a problem or issue but it could become a problem if it impinges on one's ability to form intimate or romantic relationships. If your partner wants sex and you don't, issues could arise. And really the first thing to be done is get a medical consult to see if your hormones are out of whack.
CL is also correct that sex hormones don't just govern sex drive but other things too.
On the other hand, if a low or absent sex drive doesn't bother you or affect your ability to lead the life that you want to lead and you're not bothered by any other symptoms of hormonal imbalance, then as far as I'm concerned it's fine to leave well enough alone.
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