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Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 13, 2018 at 4:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(January 13, 2018 at 4:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: All religions are false, dumbass.

Official religions yes and all official interpretations, but the truth and God and his guidance still remains, it's just hidden and not manifest in this age.

Worse interpretation of the Bible and Quran is that of the gathering of humans and jinn who the very killers of the Prophets of old, who will try claim Mohammad to be one of them and after oppressing and killing Prophets will claim them to be among their gathering and produce the anti-appointed by God Prophet and I hope the dark Prophecies of the Deceiving one among the deceivers, will not come to pass, and that his kingdom if it occurs will be short lived, and I await nothing but compassion and mercy from God, and hope we can shape destiny with a better track than the track we are heading now.

And I preparing myself to speak eloquently and write and presenting truth and take a side of truthful leaders and not the deceivers.

Hello McFly!

Other sects of Islam think they have the "official" interpretation. Other religions think they have the "official" one true religion. YOU ARE NOT making an argument we have not seen from other sects of Islam, much less other religions. EVERYONE thinks they got it right. Get in line take a number.

Shakespeare spoke eloquently but that did not make Hamlet a real person.
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#92
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
God bless Mohammad and his family, I have to go. I spend too much time on this forum today.
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#93
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 13, 2018 at 4:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You are closing your eyes Brian and you think it's mature.  It's sad so many of you demand evidence but when any Theists begins to present evidence for God, my God, does the hate become clear.

In the course of human history  there have been some 30,000 religions. None have presented any evidence.
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#94
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 13, 2018 at 5:03 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(January 13, 2018 at 4:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You are closing your eyes Brian and you think it's mature.  It's sad so many of you demand evidence but when any Theists begins to present evidence for God, my God, does the hate become clear.

In the course of human history  there have been some 30,000 religions. None have presented any evidence.

Every religion I have studied so far briefly with so little scratching of the surface of their philosophy have proven God in some way or another. 

1. Native Americans proved God.
2. Japanese concept of God is proven through some avenues they very well prove.
3. Christians have proven God.
4. Jews have proven God.
5. Muslims have proven God.
6. Taoism proves God through the path to him.
7. Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates all prove God through the concept of beauty, goodness, and justice in a thorough detailed dialogue that just requires a little reflection.
8. Quran has proven God.
9. Bible has proven God.

I am not sure of Buddism will have to study the few sects that are monotheistic and emphasize Buddah did teach those teachings and see if there are proofs of God within those sects.
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#95
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 13, 2018 at 5:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(January 13, 2018 at 5:03 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: In the course of human history  there have been some 30,000 religions. None have presented any evidence.

Every religion I have studied so far briefly with so little scratching of the surface of their philosophy have proven God in some way or another. 

1. Native Americans proved God.
2. Japanese concept of God is proven through some avenues they very well prove.
3. Christians have proven God.
4. Jews have proven God.
5. Muslims have proven God.
6. Taoism proves God through the path to him.
7. Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates all prove God through the concept of beauty, goodness, and justice in a thorough detailed dialogue that just requires a little reflection.
8. Quran has proven God.
9. Bible has proven God.

I am not sure of Buddism will have to study the few sects that are monotheistic and emphasize Buddah did teach those teachings and see if there are proofs of God within those sects.

Nope, not one of them has even come up with a scrap of evidence and they cannot all be true, indeed they are mutually exclusive.

Try harder.
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#96
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 13, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(January 13, 2018 at 5:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Every religion I have studied so far briefly with so little scratching of the surface of their philosophy have proven God in some way or another. 

1. Native Americans proved God.
2. Japanese concept of God is proven through some avenues they very well prove.
3. Christians have proven God.
4. Jews have proven God.
5. Muslims have proven God.
6. Taoism proves God through the path to him.
7. Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates all prove God through the concept of beauty, goodness, and justice in a thorough detailed dialogue that just requires a little reflection.
8. Quran has proven God.
9. Bible has proven God.

I am not sure of Buddism will have to study the few sects that are monotheistic and emphasize Buddah did teach those teachings and see if there are proofs of God within those sects.

Nope, not one of them has even come up with a scrap of evidence and they cannot all be true, indeed they are mutually exclusive.

Try harder.

They can't be fully true, but there essential central truth is all the same practically, and they all do prove God.
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#97
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 13, 2018 at 6:00 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(January 13, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope, not one of them has even come up with a scrap of evidence and they cannot all be true, indeed they are mutually exclusive.

Try harder.

They can't be fully true, but there essential central truth is all the same practically, and they all do prove God.

Feel free to demonstrate that. You won't because you can't.
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#98
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
I can, but first you have to accept the more manifest proofs I have already shown through out the years or at least show you understand them but then show why you don't accept them. The other stuff will just be verification. If you don't accept proofs I have shown, chances are, you will reject other proofs not because they don't prove their case but because your taking the whole issue as some sort of game and are not intellectually that it interested in the truth.
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#99
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 13, 2018 at 6:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I can, but first you have to accept the more manifest proofs I have already shown through out the years or at least show you understand them but then show why you don't accept them. The other stuff will just be verification.  If you don't accept proofs I have shown,  chances are, you will reject other proofs not because they don't prove their case but because your taking the whole issue as some sort of game and are not intellectually that it interested in the truth.

Dodge noted. I can guarantee you that your "manifest proofs" are all smoke and mirrors. Do you really think  I am going to waste my time searching for some vaguely defined post that you may or may not have made at some ill defined time in the past? Grow up.
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Just search my threads and read the popular ones that were debated.
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