Trump killing jobs

[Fake Messiah]

So since GOP tax scam

Toys R Us closes 180 stores
Sears closes 63 stores
Kmart closes 45 stores
Macy's closes 68 stores
Sam's Club closes 63 stores
BofA dings low income accounts
Kimberly Clark fires 5000+
Carrier jobs still move to Mexico
Paul Ryan gets 500K
Tourism down in US since Trump took office 40,000 jobs lost
COAL'S NOT COMING BACK
Trump's 30% tariff on solar panels is making solar companies say that it will cause the loss of roughly 23,000 American jobs this year. Trumpists claim that it will force companies to make more solar panels but that doesn't make sense because Germany has done the most research and owns the most patents so it would drive cost up too much. Other countries are way ahead of US in solar. China installs more solar in 60 days than US does in a year.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

In fairness, I'm not sure that all of that can be laid at Trump's door.  The store closings, for example, are largely a result of online market places and would have happened regardless of who occupies the White House.  And the anemic state of the coal industry is due to cheap natural gas.  Contrary to what some seem to claim, politicians have, at best, a limited impact on market forces in a market economy.

Boru

[vorlon13]

Retail is dying regardless of Trump. While Toys R Us is imploding, Amazon is going like gangbusters.

Almost surprised the retail mall industry isn't beseeching congress for subsidies to keep their business plans viable. I'd like to see malls repurposed as halfway 'houses' for all manner of social needs. Like immersive addiction treatment, remediation for homelessness, re-integration of parolees, hospices for the needy, etc. The infrastructure is there, just need some funding to convert the malls and 'big box' stores to a new (and better) purpose.

[Minimalist]

In fairness, I'm not sure that all of that can be laid at Trump's door. 

He takes credit for everything that happens so it is indeed fair to lay the blame right at his door.  Presidents are like quarterbacks.  Too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when the team loses.  It's part of the job.  If the fucktard doesn't like it, let him resign.

[dyresand]

In fairness, I'm not sure that all of that can be laid at Trump's door.  The store closings, for example, are largely a result of online market places and would have happened regardless of who occupies the White House.  And the anemic state of the coal industry is due to cheap natural gas.  Contrary to what some seem to claim, politicians have, at best, a limited impact on market forces in a market economy.

Boru

Yep also in the case of toys r us unless they switch to offering more electronics instead of toys they will be fine.

[vorlon13]

Malls have great locations for repurposing too. When teens were still OK going to mall, they were always crowded with them on snow days when school administrators agreed even Iditarod sled dog teams couldn't reach their facilities.

I'm actually not seeing any impediments to the Dems in congress launching a mall repurposing bill with some incentives. Wouldn't take much 'pub buy in to have a win-win on this issue. Lordy knows enough neighborhoods and city areas are being blighted with dead malls. Some kind of national TIF bill (or something more appropriate) might be just the ticket.

How many malls owned by 'pubs after all, and maintaining their value as assets would seem to be a no brainer to their constituency, and the Dems would be on board for facilities for drug rehab, elders/hospice care, parolee reintroduction/halfway houses. And at last, such facilities could be spacious and airy and open, I'd bet they work better. Hell, malls surrounded by vast parking lots, add some green spaces around them and the Greenies and NIMBYs would be on board too.

Why isn't this a thing already ??

[dyresand]

Malls have great locations for repurposing too. When teens were still OK going to mall, they were always crowded with them on snow days when school administrators agreed even Iditarod sled dog teams couldn't reach their facilities.

I'm actually not seeing any impediments to the Dems in congress launching a mall repurposing bill with some incentives.  Wouldn't take much 'pub buy in to have a win-win on this issue.  Lordy knows enough neighborhoods and city areas are being blighted with dead malls.  Some kind of national TIF bill (or something more appropriate) might be just the ticket.

How many malls owned by 'pubs after all, and maintaining their value as assets would seem to be a no brainer to their constituency, and the Dems would be on board for facilities for drug rehab, elders/hospice care, parolee reintroduction/halfway houses.  And at last, such facilities could be spacious and airy and open, I'd bet they work better.  Hell, malls surrounded by vast parking lots, add some green spaces around them and the Greenies and NIMBYs would be on board too.

Why isn't this a thing already ??

The same reasons why dems caved into Trump. We need to start electing people that have our interests in mind because the problem in the U.S. is the ever-growing wealth inequality nothing will change and the poor as result still gets fucked literally. The bright side of this is it's 2018 there are people who are primarying those people out of power so that idea is great i would vote for someone would do that. I agree that and the amount of money that this country makes we can afford to have single payer, free college, and basic income that would go the poor out of their current situation back into the middle class. That and we need to invest in solar... and green energy before it really gets too late and we start having wars over water.

[CapnAwesome]

So since GOP tax scam

Toys R Us closes 180 stores
Sears closes 63 stores
Kmart closes 45 stores
Macy's closes 68 stores
Sam's Club closes 63 stores
BofA dings low income accounts
Kimberly Clark fires 5000+
Carrier jobs still move to Mexico
Paul Ryan gets 500K
Tourism down in US since Trump took office 40,000 jobs lost
COAL'S NOT COMING BACK
Trump's 30% tariff on solar panels is making solar companies say that it will cause the loss of roughly 23,000 American jobs this year. Trumpists claim that it will force companies to make more solar panels but that doesn't make sense because Germany has done the most research and owns the most patents so it would drive cost up too much. Other countries are way ahead of US in solar. China installs more solar in 60 days than US does in a year.

Lol, for years the protectionist Michael Moore style left talks about slapping tariffs on foreign made products to bring jobs back here. As soon as there is a right winger doing it, they are suddenly free traders. Give me a break and have a little moral consistency.

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In fairness, I'm not sure that all of that can be laid at Trump's door.  The store closings, for example, are largely a result of online market places and would have happened regardless of who occupies the White House.  And the anemic state of the coal industry is due to cheap natural gas.  Contrary to what some seem to claim, politicians have, at best, a limited impact on market forces in a market economy.

Boru

Exactly.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

In fairness, I'm not sure that all of that can be laid at Trump's door. 

He takes credit for everything that happens so it is indeed fair to lay the blame right at his door.  Presidents are like quarterbacks.  Too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when the team loses.  It's part of the job.  If the fucktard doesn't like it, let him resign.

There's rather a large difference between a president taking credit for something he hasn't done and other people assigning him blame for something that's not his fault.

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In fairness, I'm not sure that all of that can be laid at Trump's door.  The store closings, for example, are largely a result of online market places and would have happened regardless of who occupies the White House.  And the anemic state of the coal industry is due to cheap natural gas.  Contrary to what some seem to claim, politicians have, at best, a limited impact on market forces in a market economy.

Boru

Yep also in the case of toys r us unless they switch to offering more electronics instead of toys they will be fine.

I couldn't disagree more.  It isn't what a retailer sells, but how they sell it that's at issue.  A larger and larger segment of the consumer base has taken to shopping online, as opposed to going to a brick-and-mortar.  There's no real reason to suspect that this trend won't accelerate.  Toys Backward 'R' Us can sell electronics all they like, but as long as people can purchase the same thing online, the physical stores will continue to suffer.

Boru

[Minimalist]

There's rather a large difference between a president taking credit for something he hasn't done and other people assigning him blame for something that's not his fault.

I don't see that at all.  Especially with a lying fuck like the WLB.


BTW, turns out that he's a pretty shitty prognosticator, too.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/donald-...owth-2017/

Donald Trump fell well below his promise of 4 percent economic growth in 2017

Trump pledged a 4 percent growth repeatedly during the presidential campaign and into his presidency. He was so sanguine that he predicted it may rise even higher at the presidential debate in October 2016. "We're bringing [the Gross Domestic Product] from 1 percent up to 4 percent," he said. "And I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent."

He's little better than a used-car salesman and anyone who believes a word he says is a shithead.