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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 10:36 pm
(May 15, 2018 at 9:38 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (May 15, 2018 at 9:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What do you think gives you the fucking right to impose your beliefs on other people?
What possible interest could you have in the situation?
I don’t think that innocent babies should be violently dismembered and killed. That is my interest.
What is your interest in my interest? And if you where really interested in not imposing ones beliefs on others, then I suspect you won’t be telling me what to believe.
"Violently dismembered"?? What are you even looking at? I had a medical abortion. I did the pills, cramped up, bled a bunch, and there were no body parts to be seen.
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 10:40 pm
(May 15, 2018 at 10:36 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (May 15, 2018 at 9:38 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t think that innocent babies should be violently dismembered and killed. That is my interest.
What is your interest in my interest? And if you where really interested in not imposing ones beliefs on others, then I suspect you won’t be telling me what to believe.
"Violently dismembered"?? What are you even looking at? I had a medical abortion. I did the pills, cramped up, bled a bunch, and there were no body parts to be seen.
Second and third trimester abortions, which utilize dialation and evacuation procedures.
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 10:47 pm
(May 15, 2018 at 10:36 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (May 15, 2018 at 9:38 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t think that innocent babies should be violently dismembered and killed. That is my interest.
What is your interest in my interest? And if you where really interested in not imposing ones beliefs on others, then I suspect you won’t be telling me what to believe.
"Violently dismembered"?? What are you even looking at? I had a medical abortion. I did the pills, cramped up, bled a bunch, and there were no body parts to be seen.
Also, according to the CDC, the majority of abortions (91.5%, to be precise) are performed at such an early stage that a surgical abortion is unnecessary, with the deed either being done by a Medical abortion like yours, or a vacuum aspiration.
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 10:48 pm
Quote:I don’t think that innocent babies should be violently dismembered and killed. That is my interest.
And to do it you will violate a woman's body and potentially endanger her life and the very fetus you claim to want to protect (no one believes )
Quote:What is your interest in my interest? And if you where really interested in not imposing ones beliefs on others, then I suspect you won’t be telling me what to believe.
My interest is preventing you from passing draconian laws that rob people of their autonomy . I have no interest in your beliefs till they do that .
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 10:51 pm
(May 15, 2018 at 10:40 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (May 15, 2018 at 10:36 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: "Violently dismembered"?? What are you even looking at? I had a medical abortion. I did the pills, cramped up, bled a bunch, and there were no body parts to be seen.
Second and third trimester abortions, which utilize dialation and evacuation procedures.
Fortunately, only about 8.5% of abortions actually are in the second and third trimester. Therefore, using them as representative of the process as a whole is fundamentally dishonest.
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 10:55 pm
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(May 15, 2018 at 10:51 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (May 15, 2018 at 10:40 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Second and third trimester abortions, which utilize dialation and evacuation procedures.
Fortunately, only about 8.5% of abortions actually are in the second and third trimester. Therefore, using them as representative of the process as a whole is fundamentally dishonest.
I wasn’t representing them as anything but evil. Any is too many!
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 11:02 pm
(May 15, 2018 at 10:55 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (May 15, 2018 at 10:51 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Fortunately, only about 8.5% of abortions actually are in the second and third trimester. Therefore, using them as representative of the process as a whole is fundamentally dishonest.
I was representing them as anything but evil.
I'm going to assume you meant to say "I wasn't representing them as being anything but evil." That seems to make the most sense given the context (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this point). You may not have explicitly stated "that's what all abortions are like," but your consistent characterisation of abortion as being like that, particularly in this post:
(May 15, 2018 at 9:38 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t think that innocent babies should be violently dismembered and killed. That is my interest.
What is your interest in my interest? And if you where really interested in not imposing ones beliefs on others, then I suspect you won’t be telling me what to believe.
seems to imply you either A) think this is what most abortions are like, or B) it's fair to treat all abortions like that, even though you know it's not true.
Kindly explain this.
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 11:36 pm
Or C
I was talking about about certain Types of abortion, hoping to find some agreement, that it is wrong to kill your baby.
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 11:55 pm
(May 15, 2018 at 11:36 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Or C
I was talking about about certain Types of abortion, hoping to find some agreement, that it is wrong to kill your baby.
And using a less common method that's usually performed during a late enough stage in pregnancy that abortions that get performed then are usually due to severe medical complications that render it the least bad option (abortion for personal reasons during a stage where IDX is the best option to do so is very bloody rare) was the best way to do this because...
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RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 16, 2018 at 12:12 am
(May 15, 2018 at 11:55 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (May 15, 2018 at 11:36 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Or C
I was talking about about certain Types of abortion, hoping to find some agreement, that it is wrong to kill your baby.
And using a less common method that's usually performed during a late enough stage in pregnancy that abortions that get performed then are usually due to severe medical complications that render it the least bad option (abortion for personal reasons during a stage where IDX is the best option to do so is very bloody rare) was the best way to do this because... You excepted honesty from the Anti choice crowd?
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