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Shell B · July 23, 2018 at 1:45 pm

(July 23, 2018 at 1:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Today's Dilbert

That's great, if you only have two choices.

Angrboda · (This post was last modified: July 23, 2018 at 5:34 pm by Angrboda.)

(July 23, 2018 at 1:26 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 1:19 pm)Shell B Wrote: 2. I was talking about the Democrats in and out of this forum. I don't know why you think I'd vote based on this forum discussion alone. I didn't say that.

3. Genetic fallacy?

4. Well, I'm talking about Democrats, and was called a moron by one at the beginning of this thread, so why is anything else relevant? That's what I was responding to, and what I am still talking about. I know you didn't call them assholes. You came in and started apparently talking about something else entirely.

Maybe that particular articles isn't wrong, but I don't trust the source, and I don't particularly think op-eds are good sources for debates.

Let's leave it at, yes I realize that people not voting for Hillary meant she lost the election. If that's all you have to say, you've said it.
Indeed i think the conversation has run it's coarse

And since you were asking

The Genetic fallacy is the fallacy judging something from it's origins rather then it's content .

I think it would be more accurate to say her argument was an ad hominem argument rather than an example of the genetic fallacy, but so long as we all know what was meant, I'm not sure it matters.

(July 23, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: They're a very biased news source, so much that, while they are 'factual' in their reporting, they use language and cherry-picking to skew news. Don't get me wrong, I'm more liberal than not, but I prefer unbiased reporting, especially when we're talking about Democrats passing the buck to Bernie supporters being discussed by a heavily-liberal, cherry-picking news site.

Meh. Sounds a lot like "I don't like Huffpost because I don't like Huffpost." Regardless, if your beef was with the way they presented specific information rather than the actual information itself, it seems you could have made a more cogent point. Your complaining about the link simply because it was Huffpost seems like a lazy argument.

Shell B · July 23, 2018 at 11:36 pm

I don’t like huff post because it is having biased is not nearly the same as saying I don’t like it because I don’t like it. Who’s being lazy here?

Angrboda · July 24, 2018 at 1:51 am

(July 23, 2018 at 11:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: I don’t like huff post because it is having biased is not nearly the same as saying I don’t like it because I don’t like it. Who’s being lazy here?

I believe I was clear on who I thought was lazy here. Even if I grant your rhetorical point, it's nothing more than a tu quoque and you're still wrong.

Amarok · July 24, 2018 at 3:24 am

(July 24, 2018 at 1:51 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 11:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: I don’t like huff post because it is having biased is not nearly the same as saying I don’t like it because I don’t like it. Who’s being lazy here?

I believe I was clear on who I thought was lazy here. Even if I grant your rhetorical point, it's nothing more than a tu quoque and you're still wrong.

This

Shell B · July 24, 2018 at 8:17 am

(July 24, 2018 at 1:51 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 11:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: I don’t like huff post because it is having biased is not nearly the same as saying I don’t like it because I don’t like it. Who’s being lazy here?

I believe I was clear on who I thought was lazy here. Even if I grant your rhetorical point, it's nothing more than a tu quoque and you're still wrong.

How am I wrong? Are they an unbiased, reliable source?

Aroura · July 24, 2018 at 10:19 am

I didn't even want to vote for her the first time around (and I didn't in the primaries). She was simply infinitely preferable to the alternative.

Someone younger and more appealing needs to run. But it doesn't matter anyway. I've been studying the Revolutionary War and the Civil War with my kid, and I've come to the conclusion that although our country was founded on wonderful set of principles, the included flaw and hypocrisy of allowing the continuation of slavery (all men are created equal! Except for these* ) has ensured that we will fail eventually. We keep trying to slap band aids on the crack, but it's like a magnificent sculpture carved in marble with an equally magnificent crack in it. It simply cannot last the ages.

I should start a topic on this, actually.

**vorlon13** · July 25, 2018 at 9:51 am

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