Toxic masculinity and sexual assault

[Dancefortwo]

I've been pinched and groped by sober men.  One time  when I was sitting on the examination table I had an doctor rub his dick on my knee while he was looking in my eyes with that light instrument thingy.  I never went back for the follow up exam.   It's always been sober men thinking with their dicks that seems to be the problem.  It's as if their brain suddenly disappears and the dickhead  takes over.  I donno you guys, I don't know what to say except, THINK.  Just THINK with the stuff up on top of your head, not the stuff between your legs.

I do, but all I have in my head is junk.

And that doctor oughta be slapped.

The weird thing about having something like that happen, and I can't speak for any other women... just for myself, is that it's like a deer in the headlights reaction.  Like the doctor that rubbed his dick on my knee, I was so shocked that I froze.   I guess for a guy it would be like walking down the street and have someone randomly come up and  sucker punch you in the face.   You're just sort of dazed by the incident. 

I was never raped but I've know women who were and they were messed up for life.   For a guy, imagine if you're at a party and some bigger, tougher, taller, stronger  guy wrestled you down and shoved a steel pipe up your butt to prove how weak you were.    This is kinda what we're talking about.   It really messes with your mind.

[The Grand Nudger]

 I guess for a guy it would be like walking down the street and have someone randomly come up and  sucker punch you in the face.   

Or rub his dick on my knee. 

[RobbyPants]

To the OP: IYO what kind of masculinity is not toxic?

It's more of a label than anything. I've never really parsed my actions as masculine or not.

[Figbash]

I do, but all I have in my head is junk.

And that doctor oughta be slapped.

The weird thing about having something like that happen, and I can't speak for any other women... just for myself, is that it's like a deer in the headlights reaction.  Like the doctor that rubbed his dick on my knee, I was so shocked that I froze.   I guess for a guy it would be like walking down the street and have someone randomly come up and  sucker punch you in the face.   You're just sort of dazed by the incident. 

I was never raped but I've know women who were and they were messed up for life.   For a guy, imagine if you're at a party and some bigger, tougher, taller, stronger  guy wrestled you down and shoved a steel pipe up your butt to prove how weak you were.    This is kinda what we're talking about.   It really messes with your mind.

With the added trauma of worrying if you are pregnant or injured so badly you can't get pregnant in the future. As well as the worry of STDs.

[Dancefortwo]

 I guess for a guy it would be like walking down the street and have someone randomly come up and  sucker punch you in the face.   

Or rub his dick on my knee. 

Hahaha.    Yeah, kinda like that.

[The Grand Nudger]

Somebody punches me in the face and it's like a shot of espresso. I have a thick mug.

I crack jokes, but I do appreciate the diff, btw.  I have no idea what it means to feel threatened by a person 20% larger than me.  I don't have to worry about 90 inch 288 lb motherfuckers because they're thin on the ground.  My wife, otoh, not a small woman by any stretch, has described what it's like to wander between giant assholes like myself and wonder whether or not one of us might wanna choke her to death with our mitts and maybe rub our dicks on her while we're at it. I think I'd be a paranoid wreck, lol.

I raise my daughters with that in mind. Somebody puts hands on em..I tell em to go to defcon 1 immediately. End the motherfucker. Grab his nuts, fall to the ground with testes in hand..and then bite em in the fuckin throat. Gave my eldest daughter a primer in bayonet when she was 6. She loved it. Hooooah! Blood blood bright red blood...Reee-lax!

[The Valkyrie]

I had an argument with a guy on another forum who joked about going to parties and groping drunk girls. I told him about a time I was at a party and a complete stranger just walked up and grabbed my tits with a huge smile on his face.

I responded with a knee to his balls.

Apparently I was a bitch for over reacting...

[KevinM1]

How well do incels fit in this equation?

Excluding those who are truly involuntarily celibate due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., disability, etc.), I'd say 100%. You know, the bruhs complaining on Reddit that women are bitches because they won't suck their dicks.

[The Valkyrie]

How well do incels fit in this equation?

Excluding those who are truly involuntarily celibate due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., disability, etc.), I'd say 100%. You know, the bruhs complaining on Reddit that women are bitches because they won't suck their dicks.

Those fuckers need high calibre lobotomies...

[KevinM1]

I'll also say this: I'm a disabled virgin. I'm a straight, horny almost 39 year old. Putting aside my physical limitations, even with the bluest balls imaginable, I have never considered unwanted touching/groping/raping/otherwise assaulting a woman to get my jollies. It's simply not a part of my calculus.