Toxic masculinity and sexual assault

[brewer]

How well do incels fit in this equation?

Excluding those who are truly involuntarily celibate due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., disability, etc.), I'd say 100%.  You know, the bruhs complaining on Reddit that women are bitches because they won't suck their dicks.

Good point, throw out those with limiting conditions. 

Do the incels possess masculinity (power) or is that gender hate fueled by inferiority (weakness)? 

I agree that both are fucked up in the head with regard to women, just questioning psychological  etiology.

[KevinM1]

Excluding those who are truly involuntarily celibate due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., disability, etc.), I'd say 100%.  You know, the bruhs complaining on Reddit that women are bitches because they won't suck their dicks.

Good point, throw out those with limiting conditions. 

Do the incels possess masculinity (power) or is that gender hate fueled by inferiority (weakness)? 

I agree that both are fucked up in the head with regard to women, just questioning psychological  etiology.

In my experience, incels are people who feel powerless and are both projecting ("I'm a fucking alpha male and not a beta-cuck!") and scapegoating ("It's all these bitches fault! I deserve to be laid!").

[bennyboy]

I would like to add gay men to the list of men capable of toxic masculinity.

When I was a teen and in my early 20's, I was on the streets a lot. At places with communal showers, it was fairly common for me to see guys touching themselves while they watched me shower. Once, when Welfare couldn't provide a place for me, a jogger picked me up early in a freezing Canadian morning-- I had blue lips, was shaking and all that. He took me home, gave me a cup of hot chocolate, and immediately started asking me questions about whether I ever masturbate, or whether I liked older men. He was very clearly getting off on how helpless I was.

Now, I'm not saying there's something worse about that than what a lot of girls go through, but it should be remembered that homosexual men are still men, and there's still very much of that instinct to dominate there based on my experience. My experiences with it were relatively minor brushes, but I'd bet that a lot of young men are raped by other men at parties, nightclubs, stuff like that.

I was also technically raped by older women in my teens, but that was statutory rape, and they had all kinds of consent from me. I enjoyed it a lot, but looking back I kind of wonder if it might have been healthier for me for my first sexual experiences not to have been with dancers or street walkers. I wish I could have just had a girlfriend from a nice neighborhood like most of my friends.

[Fireball]

Or rub his dick on my knee. 

Hahaha.    Yeah, kinda like that.

At high velocity.

I had an argument with a guy on another forum who joked about going to parties and groping drunk girls.  I told him about a time I was at a party and a complete stranger just walked up and grabbed my tits with a huge smile on his face.

I responded with a knee to his balls.

Apparently I was a bitch for over reacting...

See previous statement about high velocity.

Excluding those who are truly involuntarily celibate due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., disability, etc.), I'd say 100%.  You know, the bruhs complaining on Reddit that women are bitches because they won't suck their dicks.

Those fuckers need high calibre lobotomies...

They are already frontal-lobe impaired. They just need a nick about 1/2" deep between C3 and C4. It's a a bitch, and guaranteed to stop groping.

[brewer]

Those fuckers need high calibre lobotomies...

At low velocity. Break out the spoon.

[The Grand Nudger]

I had an argument with a guy on another forum who joked about going to parties and groping drunk girls.  I told him about a time I was at a party and a complete stranger just walked up and grabbed my tits with a huge smile on his face.

I responded with a knee to his balls.

Apparently I was a bitch for over reacting...

Part of me hopes that someone tries to grope my murderous daughters.   Not because I want them to have to deal with that....but because I want gropers to have to deal with with my murderous daughters.  I've taught them that they have an obligation to hurt gropers................bad. Permanently bad. Gropers gotta grope...I get that, but if so, they should find themselves groping the wrong fucking people.

[Seraphina]

I've been pinched and groped by sober men.  One time  when I was sitting on the examination table I had an doctor rub his dick on my knee while he was looking in my eyes with that light instrument thingy.  I never went back for the follow up exam.   It's always been sober men thinking with their dicks that seems to be the problem.  It's as if their brain suddenly disappears and the dickhead  takes over.  I donno you guys, I don't know what to say except, THINK.  Just THINK with the stuff up on top of your head, not the stuff between your legs.

I only go to female doctors including and especially my gynecologist. Same for my 12 year old daughter.

-Teresa

[The Valkyrie]

I had an argument with a guy on another forum who joked about going to parties and groping drunk girls.  I told him about a time I was at a party and a complete stranger just walked up and grabbed my tits with a huge smile on his face.

I responded with a knee to his balls.

Apparently I was a bitch for over reacting...

Part of me hopes that someone tries to grope my murderous daughters.   Not because I want them to have to deal with that....but because I want gropers to have to deal with with my murderous daughters.  I've taught them that they have an obligation to hurt gropers................bad. Permanently bad. Gropers gotta grope...I get that, but if so, they should find themselves groping the wrong fucking people.

This is awesome.

Well done.

I hope your girls never have to go through it.

[bennyboy]

Part of me hopes that someone tries to grope my murderous daughters.   Not because I want them to have to deal with that....but because I want gropers to have to deal with with my murderous daughters.  I've taught them that they have an obligation to hurt gropers................bad.  Permanently bad.  Gropers gotta grope...I get that, but if so, they should find themselves groping the wrong fucking people.

Goes for dad, too, I bet.

I gotta say that if anyone hurts my little girl, they are likely to find out what it's like to wake up surrounded by bright lights and the soothing beep of a life support system. That, or the sound of harps.

[The Grand Nudger]

Part of me hopes that someone tries to grope my murderous daughters.   Not because I want them to have to deal with that....but because I want gropers to have to deal with with my murderous daughters.  I've taught them that they have an obligation to hurt gropers................bad.  Permanently bad.  Gropers gotta grope...I get that, but if so, they should find themselves groping the wrong fucking people.

This is awesome.

Well done.

I hope your girls never have to go through it.

Hey so do I...but I feel worse for the clueless ass who thinks he can be a dick to my girls.  They really will fuck him up...and they wont feel bad when they do it.

It's disrespectful...and they shouldn't be surprised to find themselves separated from their penis if they disrespect my girls. That's the least draconian outcome that daddy has normalized..