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Du'a Nudba (The prayer of sadness)
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RE: Du'a Nudba (The prayer of sadness)
Cannot prove Quran with Quran. Especially not YouTube Quran.
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RE: Du'a Nudba (The prayer of sadness)
(October 6, 2018 at 9:06 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Cannot prove Quran with Quran.  Especially not YouTube Quran.

This is a prayer that alludes to themes in Quran but it's not Quran except it does quote 3 verses in Quran (3 reward/wage/recompense verses). It's a prayer taught by the family of the reminder to compliment and help us understand Quran and Islam, as well, Quran is meant to make us understand the family of the reminder's words, this is part of the words of the Prophet "I am leaving you two weighty things, Quran and my family....I been informed by the Aware that these two will not separate until they come back to me at the pond."

You can't prove Quran by Quran alone, because alone, it's just symbols, you need language, but language is not sufficient, you need the old language as well the context, and for that you need reason, and we need the help of the legacy of the Prophet and his successors to perceive.

Reason perhaps can see things beyond, perhaps love has potential to value and see things beyond what you see now.

Reason and honesty together will affirm a miracle if it's truly a miracle as a sign from God.


The signs known as verses of Quran had the Prophet explain them and compliment them as they were revealed but today they remain miracles due to three things:

1. Their place with respect to the whole Quran
2. The legacy of hadiths attributed to the family of the reminder compliment their true place in a way, that they break the dark sorcery, and make clear what sinister forces try to make unclear.
3. The subtle eloquence in how each verse takes it's place with respect to the book is beyond capability of a human and how Surahs take their structure, and how they take their place with respect to the whole book, is beyond capability of a human.

To know this, you have to reach some inward reflections of signs within yourself and on the skies, you have to look towards the higher realms and see the stars of guidance that will guide you out of the darkness to the door of light and so that you can enter the moon stages of the light, and finally to a day brightened by the sun, with no darkness in it.

And God has given you access to these leaders and guides, so much so that you can look at them per your will and love, and see them, and they will also respond to you and guide by God's permission, just as the Messengers guided those in the past, just as the reminder was revealed in the past, just as there was Abraham and his family to guide in the past.


They will destroy the devils and heal the afflictions and give you weapons to fight and become stronger eventually then all devils, just like Jacob became stronger then all devils and even through God's help was able to defeat Angels in combat.

Noble LadyForCamus,  I can't make you see what I see, but just consider the possibility I am on a clear proof from my Lord whilst you are averse to it, will God force you to see by love while you hate it?


They are the stars in the darkness, and will be their as moons in the journey, and will be there when it's bright as clear as midday.

You just have to look to the true kingdom of the universe, where they truly are the Kings and rule, and are weapons and arrows against the Devils, at our service, ready to help.

To look at the spiritual realm, is to look by the eyes of love, and scent by it's nose, and eat by it's mouth, and to choose and recognize the true doors out of the darkness and realize the true pathways of ascensions, it takes love.

You knew your Lord and his designated Masters before you came to this world and you will remember what you forgotten by the eyes of love.

The lanterns in the higher realm, they also have a human who represents them all and is the current leader and guide.  I still believe you can recognize this guide and realize his name, the scriptures that prove him, and see the legacy of his family and predecessors left behind.
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#13
RE: Du'a Nudba (The prayer of sadness)
Yeah, it's still a load of horse apples.
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RE: Du'a Nudba (The prayer of sadness)
Muad'dib the god of the spice.

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